EPA Plans to Shut Down the Energy Star Program

Re:EPA Plans to Shut Down the Energy Star Program by sillyfluke on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @12:43PM (#43917882)

The second sentence in your initial post is literally whining about how dishwashers take 4 hours to finish unless you put in non-bureaucratic mode, as if this some huge inconvenience to the American household. And since you feel no need to clarify what you meant by "non-bureaucratic mode" in your additional comment we can only conclude that you were referring to literally turning a dial or pressing a button. Overblowing a minor inconvenience is the literal definition of a snowflake in how it's colloquilly used.

Having failed to demonstrate convincingly how this greatly imconveniences the American household as consumer, you pivot to the inconvenience of the American household as taxpayer. But any serious discussion of that point requires you to discuss the concrete cost of this certification program compared to all other government services. This, you also do not do.

As for other countries not having this program, what do you think the purpose of the "EU energy label program" is?

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Re:EPA Plans to Shut Down the Energy Star Program by timr on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:15PM (#43919576)

Mischaracterizing my argument, and then attacking that mischaracterization is called a straw man.

My argument is not about dishwashers. It's not about specific buttons. It's that removal of this particular government bureaucracy is unlikely to lead to any bad outcomes, because it has long ago stopped doing much of anything that actually impacts energy use, and instead focuses on things like making your dishwasher work worse in the name of efficiency. A classic story of bureaucratic imperative.

Even if you do think it's doing something, you have yet to adequately explain why it needs to be done by the government.

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