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Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by root_axis on Monday May 05, 2025 @06:33PM (#43900097)
Generally speaking, anyone can learn to use any tool. This isn't true of generative AI systems which can only learn through specialized training with meticulously curated data sets.
Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by Muromec on Monday May 05, 2025 @07:52PM (#43900556)
>can only learn through specialized training with meticulously curated data sets.

but so do I!

Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by root_axis on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @02:44AM (#43902393)
This isn't true. A curated data set can greatly increase learning efficiency in some cases, but it's not strictly necessary and represents only a fraction of how people learn. Additionally, all curated data sets were created by humans in the first place, a feat that language models could never achieve if we did not program them to do so.
Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by _heimdall on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @12:58AM (#43901943)
People physically unable to use the tool can't learn to use it. This isn't necessarily my view, but one could make a pretty easy argument that the LLMs we have today can't drive a car only because they aren't physically able to control the car.
Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by root_axis on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @02:32AM (#43902345)
> but one could make a pretty easy argument that the LLMs we have today can't drive a car only because they aren't physically able to control the car.

Of course they can. We already have computer controlled car systems, the reason LLMs aren't used to drive them is because AI systems that specialize in text are a poor choice for driving - specialized driving models will always outperform them for a variety of technical reasons.

Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by _heimdall on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @02:49PM (#43908384)
We have compute controlled automobiles, not LLM controlled automobiles.

That was my whole point. Maybe in theory an LLM could learn to drive a car, but they can't today because they don't physically have access to cars they could try to drive just like a person who can't learn to use a tool because they're physically limited from using it.

Re:Evolving OpenAI's Structure by root_axis on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @03:16PM (#43908643)
It doesn't make sense to connect a LLM to a car, that could never work because they are trained offline using curated data sets.