Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by laweijfmvo on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:21PM
(#43880072)
Agree, super ironic that they’re apparently called “Social Proof” haha
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by Phreaker00 on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:21PM
(#43880075)
I agree. As a programmer I never believe this is actual interaction of people but instead random events programmed to show up to spoof activity. There's no way to verify the truthfulness of the data. As a consequence I distrust the website and make an effort to find a different seller.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by kulkarniankita on Saturday May 03, 2025 @03:21PM
(#43881402)
what would make you trust us? I am asking so I can show more legitimacy as I'm also a programmer and I agree with you
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by Phreaker00 on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @09:23AM
(#43904820)
What you're trying to solve is a form of social validation and trust that brick and mortar stores implicitly have:
1. They have to have spent a reasonable amount of money to actually be there;
2. A busy store with lots of people at the registers means there's enough trust to spend money here.
To solve this in a virtual environment you'd need a comparable amount of implicit trust. For #1 it's doable: have a trustworthy domain name. Amazon.com is a lot more trustworthy than look-at-my-shop.tk. For #2 I don't think there's a trustworthy equivalent, since it's either off-site by a third party or unverifiable by users.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by hnuser123456 on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:42PM
(#43880261)
Yes, but we're not typical customers.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by barbazoo on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:55PM
(#43880368)
Makes it even worse if they find actual people to deceive.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by ramoz on Saturday May 03, 2025 @01:01PM
(#43880427)
These are all dark patterns used in the SaaS community and it takes zero effort to create. Two valid alternatives to this product: (1) lie (2) average out whatever proof throughput you get and simulate the events
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by aledalgrande on Saturday May 03, 2025 @02:21PM
(#43880998)
Not just the SaaS community, unfortunately.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by subpixel on Saturday May 03, 2025 @01:10PM
(#43880493)
Exactly, like the bubble/up-sell in the Uber app that claims 'busier than usual' circumstances can only be remedied by paying a little more for a quicker pickup.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by hnlmorg on Saturday May 03, 2025 @01:16PM
(#43880539)
Agreed. I’ve actually ended purchasing from alternative places because of these things.
If I feel like a site is trying to pressure or rush me into a sale then I usually end up feeling negatively towards that site and thus shop elsewhere.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin...
by kulkarniankita on Saturday May 03, 2025 @03:20PM
(#43881397)
Oh really? This helped to show actual social proof vs fake it. Users that sign up can't really fake it
I want to go one step further and say this is actually a dark pattern.