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Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by barbazoo on Thursday May 01, 2025 @11:03PM (#43865781)
Whenever I see these pop up I basically never believe them. They are even worse when made up scarcity is involved.

I want to go one step further and say this is actually a dark pattern.

Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by laweijfmvo on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:21PM (#43880072)
Agree, super ironic that they’re apparently called “Social Proof” haha
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by Phreaker00 on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:21PM (#43880075)
I agree. As a programmer I never believe this is actual interaction of people but instead random events programmed to show up to spoof activity. There's no way to verify the truthfulness of the data. As a consequence I distrust the website and make an effort to find a different seller.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by kulkarniankita on Saturday May 03, 2025 @03:21PM (#43881402)
what would make you trust us? I am asking so I can show more legitimacy as I'm also a programmer and I agree with you
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by Phreaker00 on Tuesday May 06, 2025 @09:23AM (#43904820)
What you're trying to solve is a form of social validation and trust that brick and mortar stores implicitly have: 1. They have to have spent a reasonable amount of money to actually be there; 2. A busy store with lots of people at the registers means there's enough trust to spend money here.

To solve this in a virtual environment you'd need a comparable amount of implicit trust. For #1 it's doable: have a trustworthy domain name. Amazon.com is a lot more trustworthy than look-at-my-shop.tk. For #2 I don't think there's a trustworthy equivalent, since it's either off-site by a third party or unverifiable by users.

Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by hnuser123456 on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:42PM (#43880261)
Yes, but we're not typical customers.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by barbazoo on Saturday May 03, 2025 @12:55PM (#43880368)
Makes it even worse if they find actual people to deceive.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by ramoz on Saturday May 03, 2025 @01:01PM (#43880427)
These are all dark patterns used in the SaaS community and it takes zero effort to create. Two valid alternatives to this product: (1) lie (2) average out whatever proof throughput you get and simulate the events
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by aledalgrande on Saturday May 03, 2025 @02:21PM (#43880998)
Not just the SaaS community, unfortunately.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by subpixel on Saturday May 03, 2025 @01:10PM (#43880493)
Exactly, like the bubble/up-sell in the Uber app that claims 'busier than usual' circumstances can only be remedied by paying a little more for a quicker pickup.
Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by hnlmorg on Saturday May 03, 2025 @01:16PM (#43880539)
Agreed. I’ve actually ended purchasing from alternative places because of these things.

If I feel like a site is trying to pressure or rush me into a sale then I usually end up feeling negatively towards that site and thus shop elsewhere.

Re:Show HN: I made a toast that shows what visitors are doin... by kulkarniankita on Saturday May 03, 2025 @03:20PM (#43881397)
Oh really? This helped to show actual social proof vs fake it. Users that sign up can't really fake it