Re:Finland Bans Smartphones in Schools
by FinnLobsien on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @07:05AM
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Bingo. The decline of smoking wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for banning smoking in most public places and everywhere indoors, removing cigarette vending machines, etc.
Re:Finland Bans Smartphones in Schools
by makeitdouble on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @08:04AM
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Prohibition didn't work for booze, doesn't work for drugs.
Why would you be expecting better results for this ?
Smoking ban in bars and restaurants seem to work. So doing same with phones in schools during lesson time does not seem unreasonable.
I agree it is not unreasonable, but I'd also note that bars have their livelihood at stake. While a child has their phone at stake, you cannot threaten their livelihood without a trip to prison.
There are no material stakes to the child other than losing their entertainment device. Might as well break the rules.
Re:Finland Bans Smartphones in Schools
by makeitdouble on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @10:44AM
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Limited restrictions for specific times and places is totally reasonable, I read the parent comment in a larger scope as it was about stopping addiction.
This and taxes, it's much much harder to get cigarettes as a teenager now because of the price
If you would like to prohibit e.g. gambling mechanisms in games or social media you need a legal framework and then you investigate and fine the firms that don't adhere to the rules. This works very well in the EU as seen by the example of apple and facebook last week. It's not perfect but what is?
Re:Finland Bans Smartphones in Schools
by makeitdouble on Wednesday April 30, 2025 @10:51AM
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The EU still largely allows for lucrative gambling mechanisms, they just can't be predatory or deceptive. Which I agree is probably the best approach, coupled with advertisement restrictions etc.
So I fear if we do not want them to be addicted we have to prohibit things (it does not need to be smartphones, it could be mechanisms on these devices).