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Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by hidingfearful on Friday April 25, 2025 @11:57AM (#43795040)
a federal agency that doesn't follow the law should lose the protection of the law. Charge the ICE agents with attempted kidnapping of the immigrant and actual kidnapping of the judge.
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by rchaud on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:11PM (#43795259)
I imagine they'll soon be putting a spin on George W Bush-era legal arguments about the applicability of Geneva Conventions on "non-uniformed combatants". In this case, if the ICE agents weren't uniformed at the time of arrest, they can't be considered agents of the federal government, and thus can't be subject to legal redress.
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by Aeolun on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:21PM (#43795423)
Does that mean they’ll just be trespassers that can be shot if they enter your property unannounced like a gang of hooligans?
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by rchaud on Friday April 25, 2025 @02:15PM (#43796868)
It's not a coincidence that they're arresting openly unarmed people like student protesters and now judges.
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:58PM (#43795978)
2nd Amendment and self defense arguments could be argued if you shoot plainclothes officers in fear of your safety.
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by alistairSH on Friday April 25, 2025 @01:04PM (#43796064)
In theory, but how many of them are you going to shoot before they shoot back?
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by actionfromafar on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:51PM (#43795872)
Not saying anyone should but in that case they are.
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by trelane on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:15PM (#43795319)
Um, I sense you're being ironic.
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Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by whoknowsidont on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:06PM (#43795176)
That statement isn't even close or applicable to any hypothetical actions the judge could have taken here. If the judge did something unlawful there are already lawful mechanisms for dealing with that and NONE of those mechanisms involve ICE detaining the judge.

This is exactly what it looks like, nothing else.

Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by trelane on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:34PM (#43795641)
> If the judge did something unlawful there are already lawful mechanisms for dealing with that and NONE of those mechanisms involve ICE detaining the judge.

ICE is not detaining the judge.

> But Brady McCarron, spokesman for U.S. Marshals Service in Washington, D.C., said Dugan is being charged with two federal felony counts: obstruction and concealing an individual. McCarron also confirmed Dugan was arrested at about 8 a.m. at the Milwaukee County Courthouse.

> U.S. Attorney Pam Bondi posted on X: "I can confirm that our @FBI agents just arrested Hannah Dugan – a county judge in Milwaukee – for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid an arrest by @ICEgov."

Source: https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/breaking/2025/04/25/milw... (from below)

AFAICT, this is exactly what that would look like. She's been arrested by FBI/US Marshals, and a court date for her hearing has been set.

Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by whoknowsidont on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:51PM (#43795874)
Arrested by the FBI on behalf of claims from ICE. For not detaining someone extra-judicially in her own court room. There was no need to arrest someone here, especially a judge.
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by trelane on Friday April 25, 2025 @01:57PM (#43796663)
> For not detaining someone extra-judicially in her own court room.

This is not the charge, fortunately. The charges are listed in the paragraphs I quoted.

Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by whoknowsidont on Friday April 25, 2025 @02:04PM (#43796735)
Why would you expect the charge to spell out its own unlawfulness? Don't be obtuse.

For juxtaposition, the "Cash for Children" Judges were issued a summons.

Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by kenjackson on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:04PM (#43795140)
I don't think citizens have a legal obligation to enforce immigration law (generally).
Re:FBI arrests Wisconsin judge on charges of obstructing imm... by rolph on Friday April 25, 2025 @12:09PM (#43795222)
a judge doesnt enforce law, they are tasked with providing a neutral recourse to the overarching principal of justice, during the proceedings of the court.