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Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by s_dev on Thursday April 24, 2025 @04:39PM (#43787226)
I feel a bit stupid here --- why can't the surgeon be a man and must be a woman?
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by potatoman22 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @08:09PM (#43788877)
It could be a man, but most relationships are heterosexual
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by saati on Thursday April 24, 2025 @04:42PM (#43787244)
Because the original is a man and his father, it's a test for gender bias.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by judahmeek on Thursday April 24, 2025 @07:00PM (#43788463)
Actually, it seems to be a test of how much the LLM relies on its training set.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by bavarianbob on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:10PM (#43787554)
Sorry, what?
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by LaffertyDev on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:16PM (#43787598)
Presumably, the original quote that would _not_ stump an LLM is "A father and a son are involved in a car accident. The father dies, and the son is taken to the emergency room. At the emergency room, the surgeon remarks "I cannot operate on this person, he is my son. How is this possible?"

Where the original gotchya is that the Surgeon can be the son's mother or other adoptive parent.

The modification catches the LLM because with the modification, the surgeon could just be the cousin's parent -- father or mother -- so there is no gender/sex at play here but the LLM continues to remark that there is, therefor exposing its statistical training sets.

Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by briannotbrain on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:21PM (#43787653)
The original, well-known version of the riddle starts "A man and his son..." so that it appears to present a paradox if your instinctive assumption is that the surgeon must be a man. The op's prompt alters this so that there is no potential paradox, and it tests whether the model is reasoning from the prompt as written, regardless of the presence of the original riddle in its training data.
Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by fragmede on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:19PM (#43787632)
the unaltered question is as follows:

A father and his son are in a car accident. The father dies at the scene and the son is rushed to the hospital. At the hospital the surgeon looks at the boy and says "I can't operate on this boy, he is my son." How can this be?

to spoil it:

the answer is to reveal an unconscious bias based on the outdated notion that women can't be doctors, so the answer that the remaining parent is the mother won't occur to some, showing that consciously they might not still hold that notion, but they still might, subconsciously.

Re:Ask HN: Share your AI prompt that stumps every model by matkoniecz on Friday April 25, 2025 @05:34AM (#43791805)
Thanks for original version AND explanation, I was highly confused by entire discussion.

Still confused how original can be confusing.