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Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by robertlagrant on Thursday April 24, 2025 @09:13AM (#43782318)
> No, work is effort expended to achieve a result

By this definition, going to the toilet is "work". If that's the case, I never want to get to a point where I stop working.

Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by closewith on Thursday April 24, 2025 @11:52AM (#43784196)
Well, it is, and the workload of ablution becomes greater as you age.
Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by alabastervlog on Thursday April 24, 2025 @10:52AM (#43783546)
I like to use a fuzzy definition (though, all definitions are fuzzy—what's a chair? Good luck...) based on whether it's common for someone with the means to do so, to pay others to do it for them, by choice and not due to disability or something like that.

Taking a shit? Not work. Cleaning the toilet? Work.

Eating dinner? Not work. Cooking dinner? Work.

Playing badminton on your lawn? Not work. Mowing the lawn? Work.

Napping on your Ikea couch? Not work. Assembling that couch? Work.

Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by robertlagrant on Thursday April 24, 2025 @11:09AM (#43783751)
How do you define "retirement"?
Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by fwip on Thursday April 24, 2025 @12:13PM (#43784446)
When you have enough money that you no longer do work for more?
Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by robertlagrant on Tuesday April 29, 2025 @08:47AM (#43831862)
What do you call it when you have enough money but you choose to continue anyway?
Re:On loyalty to Your Employer by esafak on Thursday April 24, 2025 @12:55PM (#43784890)
In the context of this discussion, the result has to be of value to someone else, that's all. Then you can haggle over how valuable it is. When it is for yourself, the currency is time and energy; you ponder how much to invest on one task versus another.