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Re:Native visionOS platform support by tormeh on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @04:50AM (#43769944)
It's my impression that the WebGPU spec design team went to extreme lengths to accommodate Apple's wishes, and Apple in turn does not even support WebGPU in Safari. Why not express vitriol? Apple does not seem to act in good faith.
Re:Native visionOS platform support by ykl on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @05:07AM (#43770040)
WebGPU works just fine in Safari on my iPhone. It was enabled by default starting with iOS 18.2.
Re:Native visionOS platform support by gbear605 on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @08:08AM (#43771157)
It’s disabled still on my iPhone on iOS 18.4.1. Either it was enabled specifically on 18.2, and then disabled, or you enabled it manually. (Or some other weird thing, like it’s only enabled on iPhone Pros.)
Re:Native visionOS platform support by jsheard on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @05:13AM (#43770074)
https://caniuse.com/webgpu

Caniuse says it's still behind a feature flag, are you sure you didn't enable that at some point?

Re:Native visionOS platform support by ykl on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @05:27AM (#43770153)
I don’t recall enabling it.
Re:Native visionOS platform support by criddell on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @10:31AM (#43772675)
This doesn't load for me on my iPhone or iPad:

https://webgpu.github.io/webgpu-samples/?sample=texturedCube

Re:Native visionOS platform support by oarsinsync on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @12:26PM (#43773876)
Confirmed my M1 iPad Pro iOS 18.4.1 also doesn’t have it enabled. Took a bit of digging in the settings app to discover where to enable feature flags too, confirmed it’s off.
Re:Native visionOS platform support by macintux on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @12:29PM (#43773892)
I dug into my iPad and found a feature flag to enable it, hiding in settings/Safari/Advanced.

So definitely not enabled by default yet.

Re:Native visionOS platform support by willtemperley on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @05:13AM (#43770081)
Because getting angry about things that are false is insane.

WebGPU is still in progress in Safari - it is available as a technology preview. The same is true for Firefox.

Re:Native visionOS platform support by jsheard on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @05:27AM (#43770159)
> WebGPU is still in progress in Safari

That's kind of the point, Chrome shipped it across multiple platforms two years ago, while Safari still has no timeframe despite having a much narrower set of APIs and hardware to support. Firefox at least has the excuse of needing broad compatibility like Chrome but with a fraction of the development resources. Apple are just dragging their feet.

Re:Native visionOS platform support by troupo on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @07:46AM (#43770979)
> That's kind of the point, Chrome shipped it across multiple platforms two years ago

Chrome ships a lot of things. Even now WebGPU is marked as experimental technology on MDN.

WebGPU didn't even become a Candidate Recommendation until December 2024 (half a year ago)

> Apple are just dragging their feet.

Or they are not in any rush to implement APIs that haven't reached consensus, haven't passed reviews, are subject to change etc. Chrome has very very cavalier attitude towards shipping APIs.

Re:Native visionOS platform support by threeseed on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @08:45AM (#43771467)
> Chrome shipped it across multiple platforms

Chrome has routinely shipped junk APIs with no concern for privacy, security or battery life.

It's why fingerprinting works so incredibly well on their browsers.