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Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by WillAdams on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @08:59AM (#43761577)
What is the nicest programming environment which will run in this (and fit on a floppy)?

Some small programming tool (nicer than Q/QuickBASIC) which had a nice facility for creating a Text UI could be useful.

Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by int_19h on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @09:40AM (#43762051)
It depends on the task. E.g. FoxPro 2.6 is basically proto-RAD, complete with visual form and report designers and an online help system, but it's too high-level for systems programming. Borland Pascal 7.0 is probably the sweet spot of power and convenience - no visual designers, but you get Turbo Vision for TUI, a very nice integrated help system, and decently powerful object-oriented language. Better yet, early versions of FreePascal that targeted 32-bit DOS.

I don't think any of these would fit on a floppy, though; you'd have to unwind a little bit for that. Say, Turbo Pascal 5.5?

Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by snvzz on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @12:08PM (#43763731)
Fasm comes with a cute small DOS IDE.

Or ditch DOS and embrace Wirth's Oberon (the OS and language).

There is a one-floppy build.

Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by WillAdams on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @01:36PM (#43764497)
Somewhere, I have a printout of the (quite slim in terms of page-count) Oberon manual --- turns out there is a Pi build:

http://pascal.hansotten.com/niklaus-wirth/project-oberon/obe...

will definitely have to experiment with that.

EDIT: but it's apparently an emulated version?

Perhaps:

https://github.com/MGreim/ultiboberon

is better?

Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by _0ffh on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @09:11AM (#43761682)
For nice, you might be interested in DJGPP/RHIDE. It's somewhat more than fits on a floppy disk though.

https://www.delorie.com/djgpp/.

Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by vekatimest on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @09:04AM (#43761616)
Maybe Borland Turbo C? I also think Visual Basic for DOS had a text-mode UI editor.
Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by dmoo on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @09:32AM (#43761940)
Indeed VB for dos had a UI designer with buttons, forms, dialogue boxes etc.
Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by anta40 on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @09:29AM (#43761904)
Or Turbo Pascal...
Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by nopcode on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @12:22PM (#43763844)
Or the maintained open source alternative Free Pascal and its Free Pascal IDE.
Re:FreeDOS 1.4 Is Here by yardshop on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @08:31PM (#43767589)
FreeDOS can also be put on a USB stick so you are not necessarily limited to the size of a floppy disk.