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Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by bryan_w on Sunday April 20, 2025 @03:47PM (#43746055)
The question was:

>What tests with what results would conclusively show which individuals went down which pathway?

You've managed to provide 0 tests that conclusively answer the question.

Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by jl6 on Monday April 21, 2025 @09:35AM (#43751868)
If your target level of accuracy is 100%, there is probably no medical test that can show anything.

Did you know there is no conclusive test for Alzheimer’s, IBS, migraines, and dozens more physical conditions, nor for any psychiatric condition? Do you think these aren’t real, or that they cannot be discerned to a useful degree of accuracy?

Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by bryan_w on Monday April 21, 2025 @06:34PM (#43757251)
Well that's why when the law is concerned, it usually defers identification to a trained professional (e.g. as determined by a doctor ).

Besides that, there are things you can determine with certainty: The presence of a substance in blood for example

Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by jl6 on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @12:24PM (#43763874)
A physical examination by a doctor, possibly augmented by imaging, is an excellent way to determine sex if previous observations and tests have been ambiguous. This is rarely a great difficulty, but when it is, it's how DSDs get diagnosed.
Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by tomlockwood on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @02:33AM (#43759585)
So which tests with which results would you rely on?
Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by jl6 on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @12:30PM (#43763939)
Which bit are you having difficulty understanding? Make trivial observations if you want moderate accuracy (~99%), use a cheek swab or genetic test if you want greater accuracy, consult a doctor if you are still unsure.
Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by tomlockwood on Tuesday April 22, 2025 @07:37PM (#43767315)
Which part of my question are you having difficulty understanding? If this is so important and accurate surely you can name and explain the important and accurate tests, and their results. Maybe it isn't as simple as you say?
Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by jl6 on Thursday April 24, 2025 @05:00AM (#43780609)
Why should the simplicity of the definition (which, by the way, is what sex means in mammals generally, not just in humans) mean that the testing has to be simple in 100% of cases? I’ve already described cases where it isn’t. That doesn’t change the definition.

Do you think natural phenomena don’t exist or can’t be useful unless there is a simple test to grant you the details?

Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by tomlockwood on Sunday May 04, 2025 @09:09PM (#43891063)
I think there are tests that intelligent people can describe which demonstrate the phenomena exists. That's what science is.
Re:First baby born in UK to woman with transplanted womb by jl6 on Wednesday May 07, 2025 @03:45PM (#43919870)
I think my answer was larger than the box you drew for it, and now you’ve sealioned yourself into a very weird corner where you seem to think the existence of male and female developmental pathways is somehow negated by edge cases.