Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by guerrilla on Thursday April 17, 2025 @08:53AM
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It's insane how arrogant people can be about this. You have not accounted for all of the variables and that is blatantly obvious. The phenomenon is well known and there are multi-variable equations for it, many different models. One popular model is that NEET can decrease below the caloric deficit, meaning you still gain weight by becoming subconsciously lazier despite everything feeling equally difficult subjectively. There are several other more advanced models adding other variables, some depending on insulin sensitivity, for example. Anyway, no physics is broken, laymen are just naive to the complexity abd adaptability of biology.
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Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by _Algernon_ on Thursday April 17, 2025 @09:01AM
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200kcal/day is less than 10W. Since all energy the body uses is released as heat this puts the maximum sustainable heat radiation with such a diet at 10W.
That's about the level of a typical household LED, which at most feels slightly warm to the touch.
At that energy level you could not sustain weight while maintaining body temperature let alone having a healthy metabolism. That's just a plain fact.
You will lose weight long before you reach 200kcal/day.
Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by guerrilla on Friday April 18, 2025 @10:14AM
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That's a good argument against what I said for this particular case. I didn't realize 200kcal was so little. Imagine my comment was written in reply to a higher number though because that criticism is definitely valid for a large number of posts people make in general. ;)
Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by krageon on Thursday April 17, 2025 @09:29AM
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But it is basic physics, which is in fact being violated. It's really very normal to require exceptional proof for this. Like literally any scientific study, not just an anecdote claiming magic.
Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by stonemetal12 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @11:53AM
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Basic physics says CI/CO applies to a closed system. Show me a closed system human and then it will be applicable.
E=MC^2 is basic physics too. So eat a pea and have enough calories for the rest of your life and then some?
Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by krageon on Wednesday April 23, 2025 @05:29AM
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You are implying that humans receive energy from another source, which is an extraordinary claim that you should motivate somehow.
Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by karn97 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @09:50AM
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Nutritional science is pseudo science at best. I had rather continue to believe in thermodynamics lmao
Re:Adipose tissue retains an epigenetic memory of obesity af...
by bluecheese452 on Thursday April 17, 2025 @01:46PM
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It is the amazing the hoops people will jump through and the lies they will tell themselves and others rather than facing the obvious truth that they are consuming too many calories.