Re:Romney selects Paul Ryan as running mate
by tzs on Saturday August 11, 2012 @02:53PM
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I know many moderates and independents who watched the GOP primaries, and concluded that Romney would probably be OK despite saying things that frightened them, on the theory that he was just saying those things to appeal to the tea party. The tea party voters are more active in the primaries than the mainstream GOP voters, especially in the early states, and so you have to show some crazy if you want to win primaries.
Once the nomination was assured, they thought, we'd see the Romney you'd expect from his record.
Picking Ryan shows that assumption was incorrect. Ryan's anti-science beliefs, and his budget plan that is based on magic rather than economics or data, shows Romney is still courting the tea party. I find this puzzling, as those people are not going to vote for Obama. Some might vote for Johnson, or write in Ron Paul, but those have already ruled out Romney and no VP pick is going to get them away from Johnson or Paul (well, Johnson or Paul as Romney's VP might have, but that was not on the table).
This is going to cost him with the moderates and independents. He should have picked Tim Pawlenty or Jon Huntsman.
Re:Romney selects Paul Ryan as running mate
by tzs on Saturday August 11, 2012 @03:56PM
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He believes scientists are conspiring to mislead the public on climate change, and has repeatedly voted to hamper efforts to deal with climate change.
For instance, he voted for an amendment that would stop the USDA's plans to consider what effects climate change could have on US agriculture and develop plans to deal with any such changes. Here are USDA plans that Ryan is against: http://www.ocio.usda.gov/directives/doc/DR1070-001.pdf
He also voted to eliminate the White House's assistant on climate change. Ryan appears to believe in a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy when it comes to climate change.
He also voted to eliminate DOEs advanced research projects agency.
Re:Romney selects Paul Ryan as running mate
by mtgx on Saturday August 11, 2012 @08:53AM
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I don't like Obama on almost anything he supports, but I hope the Republican party gets 100% crazy this election with all the crazies they have in their party, and then I hope Obama beats them, so hopefully they learn that for the next election they need a change in strategy, and to avoid supporting the very corrupt and insane ones from inside the party.
Re:Romney selects Paul Ryan as running mate
by ck2 on Saturday August 11, 2012 @09:20AM
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I think the word you are looking for is a moderate.
And good luck with that in this century.
What really makes me sad is that 40-45% of the country is happily going to vote for R+R just to try to punish their neighbors. It's a vicious mindset. Thank you for thinking above that.
Re:Romney selects Paul Ryan as running mate
by 13rules on Saturday August 11, 2012 @03:13PM
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What really makes me sad is that 40-45% of the country is happily going to vote for R+R just to try to punish their neighbors.
How does a vote for Romney punish your neighbors?
Just because you are supportive of a smaller federal government does not mean you do not care about your neighbor and others in your community. It's divisive comments like that from both sides that prevent opposing viewpoints from coming together to solve some of the big problems of this and future generations.
Conservatives call liberals socialists who want to destroy America. Liberals call conservatives hateful and herp-a-derp. The extreme talking points and spin on both sides prevents meaningful debate that might actually result in some solutions.
Re:Romney selects Paul Ryan as running mate
by justinschuh on Saturday August 11, 2012 @10:37AM
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Were you making a joke, or do you genuinely not understand that what Obama said there is completely accurate? The private sector has shown decent growth over the last few years, whereas the public sector has continued to shed jobs due to lack of government funds. That's the biggest drag on employment, and Republicans really have proposed making the situation worse.
http://bonddad.blogspot.com/2012/07/where-we-are-employment....
Once the nomination was assured, they thought, we'd see the Romney you'd expect from his record.
Picking Ryan shows that assumption was incorrect. Ryan's anti-science beliefs, and his budget plan that is based on magic rather than economics or data, shows Romney is still courting the tea party. I find this puzzling, as those people are not going to vote for Obama. Some might vote for Johnson, or write in Ron Paul, but those have already ruled out Romney and no VP pick is going to get them away from Johnson or Paul (well, Johnson or Paul as Romney's VP might have, but that was not on the table).
This is going to cost him with the moderates and independents. He should have picked Tim Pawlenty or Jon Huntsman.
What are his anti-science beliefs? Seriously curious ... will Google it, but appreciate your thoughts.
For instance, he voted for an amendment that would stop the USDA's plans to consider what effects climate change could have on US agriculture and develop plans to deal with any such changes. Here are USDA plans that Ryan is against: http://www.ocio.usda.gov/directives/doc/DR1070-001.pdf
He also voted to eliminate the White House's assistant on climate change. Ryan appears to believe in a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy when it comes to climate change.
He also voted to eliminate DOEs advanced research projects agency.
And good luck with that in this century.
What really makes me sad is that 40-45% of the country is happily going to vote for R+R just to try to punish their neighbors. It's a vicious mindset. Thank you for thinking above that.
How does a vote for Romney punish your neighbors?
Just because you are supportive of a smaller federal government does not mean you do not care about your neighbor and others in your community. It's divisive comments like that from both sides that prevent opposing viewpoints from coming together to solve some of the big problems of this and future generations.
Conservatives call liberals socialists who want to destroy America. Liberals call conservatives hateful and herp-a-derp. The extreme talking points and spin on both sides prevents meaningful debate that might actually result in some solutions.
Case in point: http://youtu.be/DvUMvknc228