Ask HN: Are there any truly private chat apps?

Re:Ask HN: Are there any truly private chat apps? by defrost on Monday April 14, 2025 @09:39PM (#43688176)

Properly private .. or recoverable via an FOI after the appropriate lapse of time?

Even if not entered into a formal record, properly private, or logged by higher command and saved for X days in case of need for review.

I can believe it's secure from outside hacking, I question whether it's private w/out some form of logging baked in.

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Re:Ask HN: Are there any truly private chat apps? by HenryBemis on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @05:04PM (#43698354)

Logging: do you include the logging of: your browser, your ISP, your Windows machine, your router, Google (if you are using their browser), Microsoft (if you are using their browser), VPN provider (if you are using VPN), etc.

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Re:Ask HN: Are there any truly private chat apps? by defrost on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @05:44PM (#43698773)

I primarily include chat logs made by third parties not chatting when discussing the privacy of a chat protocol. Traffic analyis is a secondary concern.

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