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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by anonfordays on Monday April 14, 2025 @07:09PM (#43687285)
It makes sense if you understand that they aren't focused on general principles. Diversity is bad when it involves Whites, men, straight people or research involving these groups. Diversity is good when it involves "anti-racists." Free speech is bad when students are advocating for a Jewish homeland. Free speech is good when a professor calls someone the k-word online.

The goal is white decline and misandry.

See what I did there? Both sides play this game, both sides think they own the moral high ground.

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by viraptor on Monday April 14, 2025 @08:03PM (#43687631)
> Diversity is bad when it involves Whites, men, straight people or research involving these groups.

If you think that's what the "other side" is saying, then you've completely misunderstood what the diversity idea is about. You can't compare one idea with the misrepresentation of the opposing idea. That's just making things up.

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by soco on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @06:54AM (#43691133)
It even has a name: strawman argument. And it's so popular!
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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by dani__german on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @12:44PM (#43695357)
and yet when fields with a dearth of White Men offer recruiting events tailored to them, the "other side" is up in arms about it. Its clear that no part of DEI wants to include Whites, Men, or the doubly dreaded White & Men combo.

https://journals.rcni.com/nursing-standard/comment/a-focus-o...

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by anonfordays on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @04:54PM (#43698261)
>If you think that's what the "other side" is saying, then you've completely misunderstood what the diversity idea is about.

We don't think that's what the "other side" is saying, we know. You can't compare one idea with the misrepresentation of the opposing idea. That's just making things up.

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by AlexeyBelov on Wednesday April 16, 2025 @02:53AM (#43702275)
White nationalists are not even masking themselves on HN now, wow.
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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by explodes on Monday April 14, 2025 @07:56PM (#43687585)
Unfortunately, unlike the above post, your list is not grounded in reality
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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by anonfordays on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @12:16AM (#43688927)
Unfortunately, unlike the post above mine, my list is grounded in reality.

Again, both sides play this game, both sides claim to have "reality" on their side.

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by philosopher1234 on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @04:29AM (#43690328)
As loathe as you may be to admit it, there is such a thing as truth. Both sides claiming something doesn’t mean both sides claims are true (or conversely that neither sides claim is true).

You don’t seem to be thinking very well.

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by anonfordays on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @06:18AM (#43690957)
Whoosh, my point exactly. This is an r/selfawarewolves-tier comment.

You don't seem to be thinking very well.

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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by latentcall on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @07:32PM (#43699691)
Come on man this isn’t Reddit.
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Re:Harvard's response to federal government letter demanding... by InDubioProRubio on Tuesday April 15, 2025 @05:16AM (#43690628)
The problem is- they are not anti-racist honest. You are either nurture or nature, but if its all nurture, they refuse to discuss that part, compare those parts, work out the problematic parts and compose better societal models. They just idealise, bigott stay quiet and adverse engage only with those who respond civilized. Its all lies and damned lies and statistics.
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