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Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by dboreham on Friday April 11, 2025 @05:48PM (#43658999)
Lobster tasting good is a construct. 200 years ago lobster was the lowest peasant food that nobody with the money to buy other food would touch.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by burkaman on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:09PM (#43659219)
I think this is sort of a myth. There was a relatively brief period of time in the US when lobster was considered poor people's food, but in the rest of the world and the rest of history it has generally been very popular and often associated with the upper class.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster#History

I also think it's pretty common for historical "peasant" foods to be popular today, like tacos or potatoes for example. If anything, "poor people love it but rich people won't touch it" is probably evidence that the thing not tasting good is a social construct.

Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by conductr on Friday April 11, 2025 @10:19PM (#43660737)
Poor people have an incentive to find ways to make unwanted (aka cheap/available) food taste good, this simple fact is responsible for peasant food all over the world being generally amazing and why even a lot of upper class dishes have some origin as a lower class food.

I’m in Texas and we’re pretty well known for brisket and fajitas which are sourced from fatty/undesirable cuts of beef.

Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by pfdietz on Saturday April 12, 2025 @01:18PM (#43666285)
I've always been surprised how good the "bad" cuts become when cooked long and moist to convert the cartilage to gelatin.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by cortesoft on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:05PM (#43659169)
I think lobster tasting good is mostly about the amount of butter used.

Really, though, a lot of it has to do with food preservation technology - lobster only tastes good fresh, and goes bad very quickly (which is why you will often see them alive in tanks at the grocery store, and they are often cooked alive). Before we had the tech to either keep them alive before cooking or refrigerate immediately, they didn't taste very good.

Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by ziddoap on Friday April 11, 2025 @05:51PM (#43659031)
>Lobster tasting good is a construct.

I'm not really sure what this even means. I enjoy the taste of lobster, and the fact that it is no longer peasant food doesn't play any part in that.

Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by saghm on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:00PM (#43659123)
I think the point is that given the right social dynamics, some bugs that already are edible today could probably be considered fancy and tasty in a century or two. I might be the wrong person to ask though because I already find pretty much all seafood nauseating.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by jamster02 on Friday April 11, 2025 @05:55PM (#43659059)
The fact that it is no longer peasant food doesn't consciously play any part in that.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by ziddoap on Friday April 11, 2025 @05:55PM (#43659067)
I ate lobster maybe 100+ times (and enjoyed it) before I learned that it used to be peasant food.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by suriya-ganesh on Friday April 11, 2025 @05:58PM (#43659094)
I think what the parent comment is saying is that, lobster was likely introduced as an elite/rare dish to people in the current century increasing the appeal
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by cortesoft on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:00PM (#43659119)
That is exactly the point they are trying to make... that you enjoyed it BECAUSE you thought of it as a delicacy and not as peasant food.

I think the point is a little overwrought, really... while our expectation is part of what makes it taste good, it doesn't completely change what we think... there are a lot of foods that are considered delicacies that a lot of people don't like.

Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by ziddoap on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:02PM (#43659142)
>that you enjoyed it BECAUSE you thought of it as a delicacy and not as peasant food

When I was a child, I didn't even know the word "delicacy" let alone have any concept of whether what I was eating was a delicacy or not.

Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by cortesoft on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:07PM (#43659193)
Like I said, I disagree with the person's overall thesis, just pointing out what they were trying to say.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by IOT_Apprentice on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:04PM (#43659165)
Does that mean JD Vance will consume it? :)
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by tester457 on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:03PM (#43659148)
Therefore with the right preparation some bugs might become delicacies.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by saghm on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:01PM (#43659130)
As usual, there's a (somewhat) related xkcd for this https://xkcd.com/1268/
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by burnished on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:05PM (#43659177)
No, we cooked it like shit. It gets rubbery and unpleasant real quick.
Re:A recent study suggests that insects branched out from cr... by maxerickson on Friday April 11, 2025 @06:10PM (#43659220)
It was also wildly abundant.