How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by briandear on Thursday April 10, 2025 @04:31AM (#43641922)

Then when they unionize, all the software jobs will head to cheaper locales. Unless of course you’re suggesting that the U.S. use tariffs on labor to prevent that?

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday April 10, 2025 @06:03AM (#43642405)

Most other countries have much stronger unions and labour laws.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by wqaatwt on Thursday April 10, 2025 @06:15AM (#43642463)

Sure but when it comes to tech US currently (supposedly) has very high labor costs and weak labor laws. All other countries with a tiny number of exceptions have low to very low labor costs and more regulation.

If US has both it might shift the scale a bit.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by SiempreViernes on Thursday April 10, 2025 @05:27AM (#43642235)

> Then [...] all the software jobs will head to cheaper locales

Dude, how have you completed missed the ongoing push for AI to replace developers?

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by 9rx on Thursday April 10, 2025 @11:54AM (#43645181)

I only see a push for AI to produce more developers. How could AI, as we know it today, even replace developers?

More developers isn't at odds with the previous comment. That is how you can more easily push the jobs to low cost areas! When 张三 in rural China is given his first computer he can jump right into being a programmer too. Thus you can give him the job instead of a high priced developer in America.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by fragmede on Thursday April 10, 2025 @11:57AM (#43645209)

I want to build a thing. Before AI it would take 1 year and a team of five developers. Now with ai, it's gonna take you 6 months and 3 developers. Those two developers didn't get jobs because of AI.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by 9rx on Thursday April 10, 2025 @11:59AM (#43645237)

You haven't replaced developers with that.

You haven't even put developers out of job as you must remember that I also wanted to build a thing, but couldn't because you had all the available developers tied up. Now there are two freed up who can come work for me. There is no end to all the software we want to write.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by fragmede on Thursday April 10, 2025 @12:02PM (#43645262)

That is the hope! Only time will tell if this tech is deflationary or inflationary though. You also want to build a thing, but do you have funding for it? in this economy?

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by 9rx on Thursday April 10, 2025 @12:14PM (#43645394)

> Only time will tell if this tech is deflationary or inflationary though.

Or both. That would be my bet. The industry in general will see a decline. The massive growth in developer numbers will place enormous supply-side pressure. But certain experts who remain supply constrained along with increasing demand for those special services amid the explosion of new software being written will make a killing.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by LPisGood on Thursday April 10, 2025 @10:41AM (#43644284)

“If you unionize, all the jobs will leave” is the oldest refrain in the book for those opposed to united labor.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by WillPostForFood on Thursday April 10, 2025 @11:48AM (#43645103)

So maybe it is wisdom? It's not like it isn't true. Look where auto manufacturing investment in the US is. Southern non-union states.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by aylmao on Thursday April 10, 2025 @05:17PM (#43648086)

It's extortion. Sometimes the extorting party can act on its threats, sometimes they can't.

In regards to the auto industry, I'm not sure what you mean by "look where auto manufacturing investment in the US is". Most auto manufacturing jobs are still in the rust belt [1]. Most EV Production investment is in the rust belt [2].

[1]: https://engaging-data.com/auto-manufacturing-state/

[2]: https://www.assemblymag.com/articles/98988-ten-us-states-dom...

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by Vinnl on Thursday April 10, 2025 @10:43AM (#43644301)

I work for a US org that also hires internationally, including Europeans like me. It does location-based pay, so we're much cheaper than especially my Silicon Valley colleagues, yet somehow, we keep hiring there more than we are in Europe.

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Re:How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike sho... by HarHarVeryFunny on Thursday April 10, 2025 @05:29PM (#43648200)

If the goal is to have high paying jobs in the US, then yes the government should put penalties in place to encourage that. US cost of living (housing, real estate taxes, health care costs, college costs, etc) is way higher than many countries, especially those where jobs are being offshored to, especially India, so salaries have to be higher here.

So, do we let US companies invest US consumer derived revenue in the Indian economy, just to boost profits a bit, or do we protect good jobs at home instead, and have a virtuous circle where US profits get plowed back into the US economy?

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