Re:How University Students Use Claude
by jplusequalt on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @01:49PM
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>They don't exist. Instead they'll take low-paying jobs that can't (yet) be automated. Maybe they'll work in factories
>or maybe we'll revert to a feudal society of property owners and indentured servants.
We as the workers in society have the power to see that this doesn't happen. We just need to organize. Unionize. Boycott. Organize with people in your community to spread worker solidarity.
Re:How University Students Use Claude
by DrillShopper on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @02:09PM
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There is no industry that I have worked in that fights against creating or joining unions tooth, claw, and nail quite like software engineers.
Re:How University Students Use Claude
by jplusequalt on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @03:11PM
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I think more and more workers are warming up to unions. As wages in software continue to be oppressed, I think we'll see an increase in unionization efforts for software engineers.
Re:How University Students Use Claude
by CamperBob2 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @10:08PM
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"Gee, it seems that people in my profession are in danger of being replaced by AI. I wonder if there's anything I can do to help speed up that process..."
The best plan is to wait until your bargaining position has been thoroughly destroyed rather than taking any action while you still have some power.
Re:How University Students Use Claude
by CamperBob2 on Friday April 11, 2025 @11:18AM
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If that were indeed the case, your employer might not be investing so much in automation. They don't want to give up bargaining power any more than you do.
Re:How University Students Use Claude
by jplusequalt on Thursday April 10, 2025 @03:27PM
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Worker solidarity works. Whether you agree with the methods or not is irrelevant.
Software engineer wages? Oppressed? This is work that averages well over 6 figures—for a single worker, for desk work—in the US?
https://www.indeed.com/career/software-engineer/salaries
https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-...
Yes, oppressed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
Some will manage to remain in their field, most won't.
> Where are all the high paying jobs these disenfranchised laborers will flock to when their previous careers are made obsolete?
They don't exist. Instead they'll take low-paying jobs that can't (yet) be automated. Maybe they'll work in factories [1].
> I seriously oppose such a future, and if that makes me a Luddite, so be it.
Like I said, the Luddites were right, in the short term. In the long term, we don't know. Maybe we'll live in a post-scarcity Star Trek world where human labor has been completely devalued, or maybe we'll revert to a feudal society of property owners and indentured servants.
[1] https://www.newsweek.com/bessent-fired-federal-workers-manuf...