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Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by skeletal88 on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @12:41PM (#43623727)
Europe has SEPA payments. They are very fast and reliable, and separate from Swift.
Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by graemep on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @01:09PM (#43624044)
I have only come across SEPA as a means of making transfers between bank accounts. Can it be used for payments too (e.g. instead of a credit card)?

It is also single currency - Euro only, right? Swift is global.

Dealing with many currencies and laws (e.g. countries with capital controls) is very complex.

Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by mndgs on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:25PM (#43624938)
SEPA also works for SEK now, other EU currencies are in pipeline.

Swift is just a messaging standard and a message exchange network (distributed). SEPA is that, plus a settlement system (in a nutshell). That allows for speed and much more (instant payments, request to pay, pay by phone number, credit/debit transfers, etc).

You're bound to deal with currencies once you make any kind of transaction that originates in one currency and settles (finishes) in another.

Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by amelius on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:07PM (#43624745)
Also, does it support micropayments?
Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by mndgs on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @02:19PM (#43624856)
Yes, min transfer 0.01 EUR
Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by OvbiousError on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @04:29AM (#43630042)
We also have Wero now, which unifies the mobile payment systems in belgium, France and Germany, with more to follow. Promises to be a unified mobile payment system across Europe within a couple of years.
Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by nani8ot on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @07:31AM (#43630988)
Sadly no one I've mentioned Wero to knows about it so I've never used it. I feel like banks were too set in their old ways and PayPal ate their lunch.
Re:Brazil's government-run payments system has become dominant by SomeUserName432 on Wednesday April 09, 2025 @07:55AM (#43631120)
SEPA payments are quite expensive though, which most likely explains the prevalence of local payment system in every country.

The transaction cost compared to most domestic systems is absurdly high.