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Re:Textmate2 Goes Open Source by 5teev on Thursday August 09, 2012 @01:45PM (#4362230)
This is pretty harsh, but you're right: it was always sub-par, with some compelling features. As a long-time BBEdit (and thus Mac) user, my impression was Textmate appealed to "switchers" who may not have been aware of better options.

I tried Textmate many times, but single-character undo was always unforgivable.

Re:Textmate2 Goes Open Source by zekel on Thursday August 09, 2012 @04:17PM (#4363002)
> I tried Textmate many times, but single-character undo was always unforgivable.

I've heard this complaint before. On the other hand, I can't forgive multi-character undo. I think it's just user preference.

Furthermore, I still use TM1 all day every day. When people call it sub-par or compare its features to other editors it often reminds me of the checklists comparing the first iPhone to other (crappy) phones at the time. You can check all the boxes you want, but if the product doesn't get the details right it doesn't matter. TM isn't for everyone, but it's certainly for me, and I shopped around. (I don't mean to imply all other editors are crap.)

edit: I'm a life long Mac user, 15 year emacs user. I think it has a lot of appeal to non-switchers. That said, it definitely rode the Rails wave.

Re:Textmate2 Goes Open Source by veidr on Thursday August 09, 2012 @08:32PM (#4364172)
Are you kidding about the undo thing? I can understand that some people might like TextMate despite its flaws, but I cannot imagine that anybody would really prefer one-character-at-a-time undo.

I've been developing for the Mac for since 2000, and TextMate is the only app I can recall seeing with that "feature".

Re:Textmate2 Goes Open Source by zekel on Friday August 10, 2012 @10:54AM (#4366412)
Nope, not kidding. I prefer single character undo for programming.