> If you think sugar added to everything is a Japan phenomenon oh boi, time to travel.

You're not refuting my argument.

> As someone that lived there, frankly your take come off as the typical "English teacher/exchange student that lived in Tokyo and spend too much time on r/japanlife" and think Tokyo represent the average.

That's very condescending of you and again not refuting my claims at all. Do most of your colleagues eat their own dishes? Don't they add a helluva lot sugar and salt to everything? Hell, even Japanese-made Western desserts taste way too sweet.

I think you could be a bit kinder and not resort to personal attacks.

Edit: it's true that I lived in Tokyo, but unfortunately it's a country that contains 4 cities that get more dense by the day at the cost of unpopulated rural areas.

The poison is in the amount, not in the substance. Salty or sweet food is completely fine if you don’t eat a ton every day. You actually need salt, it is much more dangerous to not consume enough of it.

Don't you think we eat too much of those?

Most people are dying of heart diseases and guess their causes...

Japanese elderly don't even drink the broth of ramen otherwise they may literally die (not my words).

Edit: sugar we don't really need to survive (trace amounts found in fruits and vegetables is basically enough) and salt maximum daily recommended amount is around 3g. Do you know how much salt a tablespoon of soy sauce contains?

That may be the limit for sodium, the max RDA for salt is above 5 grams [1].

Now check what happens when you don’t consume enough sodium [2] (it happens relatively often among athletes and gym bros who drink too much water).

[1] https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/food-types/salt-in-you...

[2] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hyponatremia/...

> who drink too much water

I totally understand what you mean, however the vast majority of the population isn't even close to being hydrated properly so you're just taking an extreme example to make your point.

You’re right, but the point of my first reply was that the Japanese (unlike Americans) don’t eat excessive amounts of food on average.

This is definitely true from my experience. They eat less than even Europeans (which themselves eat less than Americans on average).

I live in the inaka (Aomori) and my experience is the same.

Many Japanese recipes I’ve tried have 2 tablespoons of sugar, but that’s not much in a meal for four.

Then there is mirin, which is basically sugar.