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Re:Reasoning models don't always say what they think by Marazan on Thursday April 03, 2025 @02:52PM (#43573805)
We had Markov Chains already. Fancy Markov Chains don't seem like a trillion dollar business or actual intelligence.
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Re:Reasoning models don't always say what they think by tsimionescu on Thursday April 03, 2025 @02:56PM (#43573849)
Completely agree. But if Markov chains are AI (and they always were categorized as such), then fancy Markov chains are still AI.
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Re:Reasoning models don't always say what they think by svachalek on Thursday April 03, 2025 @03:07PM (#43573972)
An LLM is no more a fancy Markov Chain than you are. The math is well documented, go have a read.
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Re:Reasoning models don't always say what they think by jampekka on Thursday April 03, 2025 @03:53PM (#43574561)
About everything can be modelled with large enough Markov Chain, but I'd say stateless autoregressive models like LLMs are a lot easier analyzed as Markov Chains than recurrent systems with very complex internal states like humans.
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Re:Reasoning models don't always say what they think by highfrequency on Thursday April 03, 2025 @03:03PM (#43573926)
The results make the method interesting, not the other way around.
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Re:Reasoning models don't always say what they think by baq on Thursday April 03, 2025 @03:28PM (#43574267)
Markov chains in meatspace running on 20W of power do quite a good job of actual intelligence
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