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Re:Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water by noodletheworld on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:08AM (#43521249)
Dentists have to spend 8 years at school right? …and do various annual training to stay licensed?

I’d say that’s a reasonable sign of someone qualified to have an opinion.

I think you’re getting confused with a dental technician.

Re:Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water by petesergeant on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:15AM (#43521283)
You don’t seem to understand the difference between public and private health.

Your dentist is well qualified to have an opinion on the effects of fluoride on your teeth.

They are poorly qualified to have an opinion on whether it should be added to the water supply at source.

Re:Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water by noodletheworld on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:30AM (#43521351)
Well, I guess you should talk to a doctor then instead.

Or is there some reason they’re not an expert in this either? They just do prescriptions, not water supply things?

Maybe you need to talk to a city planner at your local town hall. Or is that somehow also no good?

It seems super convenient that everyone who might be an expert in this field is somehow not one…

One thing is for sure! Random people quoting Wikipedia are not! :)

Re:Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water by petesergeant on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:31AM (#43521360)
Getting increasingly snarky when you're apparently unaware that Public Health is a thing is not a good look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health

Generally it's multi-discipline, but a good start here would be an epidemiologist with a focus on dental issues.

Re:Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water by noodletheworld on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:33AM (#43521371)
> One thing is for sure! Random people quoting Wikipedia are not! :)
Re:Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water by jandrewrogers on Sunday March 30, 2025 @12:56AM (#43521465)
I would be really surprised if dentists had much expertise on the impact of fluorine on physiology or the mechanisms of action for its toxicity. They know what it does to your teeth, and maybe that it is known to have positive effects for cardiovascular health, but that is about the extent of it. The systematic effects on the rest of your body are outside their domain.

Chemists who work in fluorine chemistry on the other hand have to become experts on the biological effects of fluorine exposure. Small and seemingly innocuous exposures can do a lot of damage and kill you, though not in a way that lends any support to the idea that municipal fluoridation will harm you. If you do understand how it kills you (basically by being exceptionally narrowly focused on making free calcium ions and to a lesser extent magnesium ions biologically unavailable), it is hard to describe a chemically plausible scenario that somehow avoids this basic fact of chemistry. Fluoride behaves the same way outside the body.

Municipal water exposure is far below the noise floor for fluoride. Food has far higher levels of fluoride than municipal water and the body has ample excess calcium and magnesium to absorb the loss of bioavailability of a microscopic amount of those minerals. Humans consume calcium measured in grams per day, multiple orders of magnitude more than can be lost via municipal fluoridation. Natural dietary variation will have a far larger effect.