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Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by uncoder0 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:35PM (#4351836)
You are suggesting human's will run into it more often right? I sincerely doubt we will see too many autonomous-car-at-fault crashes. The blacked out Lexus SUV's I saw at a Google event a few weeks ago were very discrete minus the velodyne sensor. If it adds an credibility I was on a team at the Victorville final in 2007. :)

As an aside, I've been waiting to buy my Google car for 5 long years. During this time I've become so disenfranchised with day to day driving that I avoid it at all costs. Commuting via roads in a car is such a mundane task that is, in my opinion, a solved problem. Bring on the autonomous cars!

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by apaitch on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:46PM (#4351884)
Commuting does kind of suck if you're trying to roll in during rush hour. But without super-heavy traffic I find driving to be rather enjoyable in itself. Even more so if you're riding a motorcycle :) Perhaps the problem is not commuting, but the fact that many companies want their employees at work at 9:00 and out of work at 5:00?
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by Goronmon on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @04:48PM (#4352203)
The problem for me isn't commuting, it's having to invest so much money into a huge pile of metal and plastic that someone distracted by someone or something in their own pile of metal and plastic can destroy in an instance, possibly killing me and anyone with me. Or maybe I get distracted and the result is similar.

I just don't see the few cases where it's enjoyable to be worth the other costs. I'd consider it similar to smoking in that regard.

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by nitrogen on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @05:29PM (#4352408)
Feel free to refrain from driving, in that case; just don't get in the way (in a legal sense) of those who still want to.

Smoking is a much greater nuisance than driving, because a nearby smoker will foul the air for a fairly large radius through no choice of the people around them. Driving only affects other people who choose to be on the road.

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by clarky07 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @05:37PM (#4352463)
Comparing to smoking seems to be a huge stretch to me. One thing virtually guarantees cancer and an eventual unpleasant death while providing no measurable benefits at all, and the other allows you to easily travel all over the place cheaply with a relatively small chance of a major accident.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by icebraining on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @08:23PM (#4353171)
virtually guarantees cancer

That's not true at all, the incidence rate of lung cancer in smokers is less than 20%. That's still much higher than for non-smokers (0.4% - 2%), but hardly a "virtual guarantee".

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ams6110 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:40PM (#4351861)
Will you be OK with google tracking everywhere you go and serving you ads for every shop you pass?
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ceejayoz on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:49PM (#4351900)
My wife sees a neurosurgeon who's an eight hour round trip away. I've driven her there and back at least six times this year.

With a Google car, I'd a) be able to send her by herself and b) even if I had to come, I could work on the way, meaning I'd have more than a week's worth of vacation/sick time restored.

Yes, I'd happily accept ads.

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by tedunangst on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @04:49PM (#4352209)
You could also hire a limo. I suppose in the future you'll be able to rent a google car for a day, but you don't have to wait for self-driving cars. They're here today, the self just happens to be a human.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ericd on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @04:56PM (#4352254)
That's not really reasonably cost effective for most people.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ams6110 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @07:56PM (#4353059)
Having a full-time driver on retainer 24x7 is not cost effective, but using one a few times a year might well be.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ericd on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @10:06PM (#4359158)
For an 8 hour drive? Still not true, especially with a limo.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by sp332 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @05:20PM (#4352367)
Neither is a Google car, though. Adding self-driving requires five figures, probably even in production.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by danweber on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @06:36PM (#4352761)
I think $10,000 is a big over-estimate, but even that would be spread out over the life of the car. I'd happily pay $1000 a year to not have to worry about driving.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by tedunangst on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @07:20PM (#4352914)
I'd happily pay $1000 a year for a car that doesn't drive itself.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ceejayoz on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @05:23PM (#4352375)
A limo with a driver is always going to be fairly expensive. A self-driving car should come down in price a lot faster.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by uncoder0 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:45PM (#4351878)
Hopefully I'll be wearing my google glass too! So, I guess so.

True privacy is very hard. You could set up a camera to read plates at some choice points and know the whereabouts of most of the people in your city. If you want to do something privately you have to act deliberately in this day and age.

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by icebraining on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @08:28PM (#4353193)
Setting up those cameras would be illegal where I live.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by roel_v on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @04:56AM (#4354586)
Whereabouts is that? I hear many people make those claims, but almost as many turn out to be wrong when investigating more closely.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by icebraining on Wednesday August 08, 2012 @08:28AM (#4355159)
Portugal.

To set up such cameras, you'd need permission from our National Data Protection Commission and if you were to store footage with car plates you'd fall under the Personal Data Protection Law which requires you to either get explicit consent or fall under one of the few exceptions in the law (and no, tracking random people isn't one of them).

And even if you qualify, you can only use that data for the specific purpose you said you needed it for and it needs to be well protected (for example, a governmental CCTV installation was suspended because the recording weren't being well encrypted).

Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by swalsh on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:50PM (#4351908)
If you have an android phone, Google already has the capability to do this.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by ceejayoz on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @04:39PM (#4352163)
I believe they do, as well. IIRC that's how the realtime traffic data comes in.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by krenoten on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @04:32PM (#4352118)
I'll take that over feeling like I'm about to die while a careless driver is at the wheel any day.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by stove on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:51PM (#4351916)
Yes. I'll be asleep.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by sp332 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:44PM (#4351876)
You don't really need ads for the shops you're already passing.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by daenz on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:43PM (#4351872)
Good evening, John Anderton. Routing you to the pre-crime facility for detainment.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by swalsh on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @03:53PM (#4351926)
I see you're on your way to the drug deal you briefly discussed over gmail, i've taken the liberty to ensure the local human authorities are aware.
Re:Google's Autonomous cars complete 300,000 miles without a... by sp332 on Tuesday August 07, 2012 @05:33PM (#4352432)
Better: robot authorities. Who can be bought off with a few bitcoins :)