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Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by enaaem on Friday March 28, 2025 @07:54PM (#43511186)
As a former libertarian I used to argue against leftist why tariffs are bad. Funny how things have turned around.
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by dralley on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:09PM (#43511348)
MAGA is Maoism. They low-key despise most good things about Western civilisation: freedom of thought, rule of law, presumption of innocence, trial by peers - they want goon squads and struggle sessions against political enemies. They think the sayings of Dear Leader, and the knowledge that you're part of the Revolution are superior to affordability and availability of goods. They prioritize commodities, resource extraction and the nobility of working in agriculture over scientific research and advanced manufacturing.
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by stanleykm on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:16PM (#43511423)
MAGA is not Maoism. Stop.
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by ggm on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:26PM (#43511489)
Steve Bannon disagrees. He's also wearing an oilcloth jacket symbolically as a Mao suit.
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by stanleykm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @03:58AM (#43513660)
Who cares what Steve Bannon thinks?
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by dralley on Saturday March 29, 2025 @06:20AM (#43514280)
He's the ideological founding father of MAGA?
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by stanleykm on Saturday March 29, 2025 @04:36PM (#43518504)
Does that mean he is right or that he knows what Maoism is?
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by Ylpertnodi on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:11PM (#43511366)
Why are you a 'former libertarian', and - I presume - not one 'now'. And do you own a tesla?
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by enaaem on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:29PM (#43511519)
I stopped being a Libertarian around 10 years ago. I could write whole essays about, but it started when I realised that the world was already anarchist and if Libertarian societies were superior then they would naturally outcompete other societies and we would all live in an Libertarian utopia right now.
Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by overfeed on Friday March 28, 2025 @09:22PM (#43511846)
> [...]if Libertarian societies were superior then they would naturally outcompete other societies[...]

Not for the lack of trying. There have been more than a handful of Libertarian city takeovers and sea-steading projects, and they all end in similar, predictable ways. The sea-steader/new country declarations fail to defend "their" territory against an actual military, and the libertarian towns run out of money and/or people willing to live in a free-for-all society without common services.

Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by defrost on Friday March 28, 2025 @08:07PM (#43511323)
Tariffs are an instrument in a trade flow process that can be used in many ways that can be contextually good or bad.

The deal with these tariffs is the flip flopping, the high rates, the probable corrupt behind doors and under the table deals on where they are applied and where they aren't, etc.

This might be of interest:

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Re:2025 Tariff Impacts at Puget Systems by thomassmith65 on Friday March 28, 2025 @09:54PM (#43512034)
Yes, here's an old ad from Canada's Liberal party using NAFTA to attack the Conservative party:

  https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBcRYmk88jw
That said, most people, in any era, on both the left and right, probably agree that 'sudden tariffs for no reason whose details change every few weeks' are a bad thing.