What's wrong with recycling the bottle caps and not having them all over the place because they're small and otherwise fall onto the streets, sewers, and trails?? It's really not a problem to have the lid attached to the bottle - works totally fine for me whether it's milk, soda, or apple juice.

I'm not OP, but to me, the bureaucratic issue is that plastic bottles should be wholesale banned instead of this halfass attempt at regulation or heavily purchase-controlled.

This is a political and economic issue though, there is no support for this.

It’s very easy to start a business in the UK and the regulatory environment isn’t particularly hostile to it. It depends a lot on what line of business you’re in, of course (as it does anywhere else).

Unless my business is providing secure end-to-end communication to users in accordance with their basic human right to privacy and presumed innocence.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/whatsapp-signal-eu-chat-contr...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrest_and_indictment_of_Pavel...

This feels like an attempt to derail the conversation rather than contribute to it. The arrest of Pavel Durov has nothing to do with the UK.

Who said it had to do with the UK? The UK is part of Europe, and both the EU and UK have been introducing backdoor bills, the Online Safety Act and Chat Control respectively, and thus Europe as a whole has a political climate that is anti-freedom. So does the US, but Europe does, too.

My post that you responded to was specifically about the UK. You’re talking about someone being arrested in France. Your complaints about various pieces of legislation may be justified, but they’re not pertinent.

Did you forget that my first message, which you replied to, was specifically about Europe?

So you replied about the UK specifically. I catered to that, and then reconnected it back to Europe as a whole, which I was originally discussing.

If someone here is derailing the conversation, it isn't me. Especially now that we're discussing the meta and not even the original subject.