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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by gryfft on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @02:05AM (#43468481)
Seems to me like the overhead it would add would way outweigh the benefit for the use case. I wouldn't want to wait an extra 10 seconds for the audio to finish transmitting every time just to prevent nonexistent spies in my kitchen from listening in.
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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by Retr0id on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @02:30AM (#43468555)
The data/time overhead would be negligible. Engineering overhead to implement it on the other hand, perhaps not.
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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by gryfft on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @03:52AM (#43468885)
> The data/time overhead would be negligible.

Doubling or tripling the amount of data sent would be negligible over a wire, but an audio protocol won't be as snappy. Then there's the matter of trust/decryption. How are those keys being kept safe? What happens if I lose access?

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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by Retr0id on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @04:27AM (#43469081)
Then don't double or triple the amount of data sent. There's simply no need.
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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by stavros on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @04:39AM (#43469154)
You can encrypt data and keep the exact same original byte size.
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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by gryfft on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @08:07AM (#43470241)
If you're using symmetric encryption, sure. And then every dishwasher has the same symmetric key, guaranteeing it'll leak.
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Re:I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud by stavros on Tuesday March 25, 2025 @01:17PM (#43473629)
Everything uses symmetric encryption, including asymmetric encryption. Using symmetric encryption doesn't mean you'd use the same key for every dishwasher, you'd obviously just pair the devices and generate a new key, like everything does nowadays. Also, my dishwasher doesn't use any sort of encryption, and it still leaks.
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