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Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by MrJohz on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:38AM (#43459757)
Can you give some examples of this attitude? I'm not sure I've seen that behaviour anywhere, and it's very difficult to look up examples when your description is so vague.
Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by _zamorano_ on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:53AM (#43459869)
How about the consequences of US proxy wars? Not a word about the reasons mediterranean european countries keep getting floods of displaced refugees.

Maybe if the US stopped bombing their countries, we'd stop getting so many.

Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by ttyprintk on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:15AM (#43460086)
The internal refugees in Syria occurred because of multi-year drought. Burma, 2008, was a cyclone. Leaving out some theories on proxy war is like leaving out any other kind of challenge.
Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by pjc50 on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:03AM (#43459963)
The bombing of Libya was a full NATO operation: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_i...

But yes, the War On Terror completely destabilized such a large area including Syria that it's been a disaster for Europe.

Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by tored on Monday March 24, 2025 @10:16AM (#43461398)
Correct, and that is why I argue that Europe is an vassal state, i.e. taking actions against its best interest because the overlord tells them to.
Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by paleotrope on Monday March 24, 2025 @11:28AM (#43462178)
If the US wasn't fighting these "proxy" wars, Euroland would have a lot bigger problems. Refugees are a simple problem to fix. Don't take any.
Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by galfarragem on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:50AM (#43459850)
Lol. Just listen to any ‘opinion maker’ on European media - they whine about it 24/7. They’re ‘not happy’ - to say the least - that the status quo has changed.
Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by _zamorano_ on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:46AM (#43459822)
With Nord Stream, the elites tried to gaslight their population using the media into believeng an stupid made-up story about how Russia blowed up their own pipe.

Very convenient for the US, not so for the EU

Re:Millions are visiting the European Alternatives site––wha... by ttyprintk on Monday March 24, 2025 @08:21AM (#43460158)
Only if it were Russia can Trump stay quiet about Nord Stream, which he has.