Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by sergiotapia on Sunday March 23, 2025 @07:44PM
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you didn't answer the _why do we need all that for a drum beat making website_?
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Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by jdiez17 on Sunday March 23, 2025 @07:51PM
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Unauthenticated http is a vector for opportunistic malware. They don’t target specific websites, just inject evil.js wherever.
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by otabdeveloper4 on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:28AM
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You ISP sniffing and MiTMing traffic on the wire is the least likely vector of malware injection.
ISP's are usually serious businesses with reputations and don't hack their own customers.
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by latexr on Monday March 24, 2025 @05:59AM
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That “usually” is doing a ton of work. I remember Vodafone injecting scripts into webpages many years ago. While trying to find a source, I bumped into other shenanigans.
https://www.simpleanalytics.com/blog/vodafone-deutsche-telek...
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by otabdeveloper4 on Monday March 24, 2025 @10:47AM
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Out of all the bad actors on the Internet, your ISP is the least bad.
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by latexr on Monday March 24, 2025 @07:53PM
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That’s not a valid defence, it’s moving the goalposts and whataboutism. ISPs shouldn’t be bad actors at all and they have the ability to do the most harm.
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by kube-system on Monday March 24, 2025 @12:57PM
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Maybe if they live in a high income country with relatively strong consumer protections and are using their home ISP. But quite a lot of the internet is very much not that.
In some places and on some networks, MiTMing http traffic for undesirable use-cases is routine.
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by nklymok on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:11AM
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At least so that login / register data don't go to the middle man.
Re:Show HN: I built website for sharing Drum Patterns
by otabdeveloper4 on Monday March 24, 2025 @03:27AM
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You don't. But you will be penalized by Big Co for not supporting https.
(It's effectively a "doing business on the Internet" tax. Thankfully not that expensive for small hobby projects now.)