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Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by jfengel on Sunday March 23, 2025 @08:58AM (#43452589)
I agree, to a point. If an order were coming from the top, it would be happening many times a day.

But it could also be that the overzealous staffers feel like they want to impress the higher ups. So it could well be happening bottom up. The administration certainly isn't jumping in to fix it when it happens. If so, that's something you need to take into account if you want to travel here.

Many are going to boycott us entirely anyway, just because of how hostile the administration is to our erstwhile allies.

Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Sunday March 23, 2025 @09:03AM (#43452612)
If it were an express order from the top, it would easier to fight against. This is more of 'obeying in advance' where people in various positions get the vibe that they both can and should be doing this kind of thing and that not only will they get away with it, but may even be rewarded for it. This stage affects of the already willing participants. At later stages 'obeying in advance' will be done even by unwilling participants out of fear of retribution.
Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by enaaem on Sunday March 23, 2025 @10:05AM (#43453008)
Generally speaking corruption and abuse by law enforcement never comes from the top. It will be stupid to be officially liable for it. What happens is that they look away.
Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by jfengel on Sunday March 23, 2025 @11:34AM (#43453605)
This particular administration doesn't appear to care about liability. They quite publicly dare other branches to do anything about it.

Because of that I don't think this comes from the top. But doing so would be entirely in character.

Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by dartos on Sunday March 23, 2025 @09:09AM (#43452654)
It very well may be.

That’s why I’m going to wait to believe these stories until more time has passed.

If these were just a blip come a few months, then they were a fluke.

If it becomes a pattern… well it wouldn’t be surprising…

Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by wkat4242 on Sunday March 23, 2025 @09:08AM (#43452648)
> This is more of 'obeying in advance' where people in various positions get the vibe that they both can and should be doing this kind of thing

Yeah like meta killing their DEI programs to suck up to Trump.

I don't see a similar hatred of such programs here in Europe luckily. I work for an EU company that has a big footprint in Europe and they have no plans to reduce their inclusivity programs. I'm directly involved in those.

And really, no they are not about quotas at all. It's all about being "colourblind", to remove inherent bias, exactly what the Trumpians claim to want.

Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by dartos on Sunday March 23, 2025 @09:10AM (#43452663)
> Yeah like meta killing their DEI programs to suck up to Trump.

Or because Zuckerberg wanted to avoid “life in prison”

Which may be worse, actually.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/31/politics/video/smr-trump-zuck...

Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by wkat4242 on Sunday March 23, 2025 @09:51AM (#43452932)
That's a totally unrelated issue. And just some grandstanding by Trump.

Besides, Zuckerberg has more than enough money to evade US law if he needs to (and that's if Trump can manage to make such BS into law!). Even Snowden has successfully done that and he wasn't even rich.

He's not really at risk of going "to prison for life".

Re:Is it safe to travel to the United States with your phone? by jfengel on Sunday March 23, 2025 @11:36AM (#43453622)
If Trump wanted to, he could simply send the marshals to arrest him. Zuckerberg has a lot of ability to evade, but it's not infinite.

Trump probably was just grandstanding there. He makes hundreds of meaningless threats per day, to make it impossible to tell which ones he means to carry out. But they do cause fear, because you can never be 100% certain. And not even other oligarchs are safe.