> Yes, but nobody competes with AWS, Azure or GCP

Scaleway is positioned in the same space.

STACKIT too.

OVH and Scaleaway?

If not used the latter but the former was excellent back when I used to use them. They were a little more focused on traditional compute and lacks the general breadth of services that the likes of AWS offer. But if you’re in a position where you’re able to choose a cloud platform provider based on the location of their HQ, then the chances are you’re requirements from said cloud provider are pretty basic.

True, I missed out what scaleway have done over the years, but after being literally burnt by OVH, and hearing that scaleway was operating in similar fashion, I gave up looking at their offering.

There is also https://UpCloud.com

How do you think all these massive companies will successfully continue to operate in a country where the rule of law is no longer respected?

Like I understand how that might sound like hyperbole, but everything I'm reading seems to indicate the USA is on an express train to hackville.

Bribery.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tech-ceos-meta-amazon-don...

(the risk is of course that the administration is not stable enough to stay bribed, or intra-oligarch fighting breaks out between Musk and one of the others)

Yes, plus for example helping out with surveillance, finding and stopping dissidents.

Fascism tends to be (I read/learned recently) friendly to big corporations, as long as they are loyal to the regime.

Doesn't this just start to go from productive efforts to stupid ones?

Why aren't we all flying on Russian made planes and using Russian cloud products?

I don't get what you're saying? There was a brief fad for using the other Chinese short video service, Rednote (Xiaohongshu) for about five minutes while TikTok was banned in the US, but mostly this discussion is about data sovereignty for Europeans who want to use European products for better legal protection.

(people have long since moved away from the Russian-bought social network, Livejournal; it's very occasionally useful to look something up on Yandex if you think it may have been delisted)

If you look into the history of some of our most recent, major disasters, they've happened under the watch of authoritarian governments. Two that spring to mind would be Chernobyl and Covid.

Companies running under those governments should surely be susceptible to similar issues because the fish rots from the head down. The culture and fear of speaking out and there for steering things in the right direction would be really dangerous for a company like Amazon and the AWS ecosystem.