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Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by balamatom on Monday March 17, 2025 @07:57PM (#43394124)
C-v C-h
Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by blooalien on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:11PM (#43394237)
Kudos! Am a huge proponent of learning the most useful hotkey combinations for any software one uses even semi-frequently. Such a massive time-saver.
Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by stuaxo on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @05:57AM (#43397486)
The removal of hotkeys and icons from menus was an act of vandalism.

You used to be able to learn a program by simply running the mouse across the menus to see the hotkeys and icons too.

Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by balamatom on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @04:46PM (#43404887)
PSA: It's not vandalism when it's the people in power who are destroying the nice things - that's called design.
Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by shadowgovt on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @07:45AM (#43398273)
Excellent! How did you find that key combo?
Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by balamatom on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @04:44PM (#43404863)
By an ancient and forbidden science: I looked.

(Not sarcastic.)

Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by shadowgovt on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @07:33AM (#43410628)
What I mean is: looked where? It's not in the popup tooltip when you give the button in the UI.
Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by balamatom on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @08:31AM (#43410999)
You're right. I looked again and... it wasn't there. Turned out to be a real doozy:

You know how pasting creates this special "floating" layer? While in this mode, the "Layer->Merge Down" menu command is replaced by "Layer->Anchor Layer" - which has the keybind. "New Layer" also becomes "To New Layer".

While I can see how it makes sense on some level, it's also a whole new kind of counterintuitive.

Re:GIMP 3.0 Released by shadowgovt on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @10:06AM (#43412196)
Yeah, that's mostly my issue with it. IIUC it's no longer the default behavior in version 3, so good choice on the team's part.

The problem with it is that we've had a good UX understanding of how modal behavior works for ages, and if you're going to do something modal, you need to make clear to the user that the mode has changed (especially to the naive user, who has no reason to anticipate paste enters a novel mode). The indicators that mode has shifted are too subtle: one is the buttons going green on the layer panel (which I think can be hidden at that point? I'd have to check), and the other, I have now learned, is some menu options changed. No dialog box, color switch, or text indicator to say "PASTE MODE: choose how this pasted data should be added to the image."

And when it's so high on the critical path of using the software (how long does the average user use an image editor before they try to paste something?), it's a huge hit to the overall experience and makes the user feel like this tool is too complicated.