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Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by tra3 on Monday March 17, 2025 @11:15AM (#43389437)
Disagree. Leveraging internal tools like JIRA, Confluence, PagerDuty etc has been a huge boost for productivity.

"I got an alert for X, who can help me" surfaces a bunch of helpful stuff. Not groundbreaking in the sense that I could do the leg work myself, but fantastic from automation point of view.

What scares me is the "YOLO mode" and similar in cursor. It's not practical to review each and every tool execution after the first couple of manual tool executions... Prompt injection is still a thing, whether intentional or accidental. Little Johnny Tables is still around.

It's still early days, the complicated setup with OAuth and or API tokens will be improved imo.

Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by bschmidt44 on Monday March 17, 2025 @11:20AM (#43389511)
Does fetching data straight to LLM context cause new problems for you?

I imagine a simple Bad Request could derail the convo since it's added to the context?

Fundamental things are keeping me away

Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by tra3 on Monday March 17, 2025 @11:30AM (#43389591)
Not especially. The flow is natural, if you will.

- Me: "Do this"

- LLM: "Ok, let me try do this.. nope something's off. Let me try another way".

Occasionally, I do have to abandon a run but in general it seems successful.

Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by bschmidt44 on Monday March 17, 2025 @11:38AM (#43389670)
You're talking about using a Chat AI as an end user.

I wonder why there is a protocol at all for end users since you are using natural language as the ACTUAL protocol.

Is MCP not for developers?

I thought of it as like a GraphQL in that it takes over the network comms layer but for LLM queries instead of payloads.

Idk

Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by tra3 on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:06PM (#43389959)
Not sure I'm following. I was under the impression that MCP defines a way for LLMs to reach into the "real world". The MCP servers I've played with basically say "I'm an MCP tool, and I can fetch a Jira ticket". The LLM then has the option to call the tool.

Check this out https://smithery.ai/

Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by bschmidt45 on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:12PM (#43390030)
They banned my other account just now, but I'm the same guy:

I see - fundamental misunderstanding on my part about what it is.

It's a chat thing - for the end user. The word "protocol" is very confusing here.

Makes sense why it didn't make sense, if that makes sense.

Re:Underwhelming MCP vs Hype by bschmidt80 on Tuesday March 18, 2025 @02:09PM (#43402686)
Yeah I get that there is a consumer side, I was mainly referring to the technical spec - the "protocol"

I invented something like this months ago to pull up a calculator, browser, etc. in the chat UI (try it chat.blacksand.cloud)

If you prompt what is "2 + 2" it will respond with "4" and render a calculator tool in the chat. It knows what tool to render based on this system.

I guess that is what they are formalizing.

I get it now, cool.