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Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by bryant on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:33AM (#43387814)
In all seriousness (aside from all the comments stating they'd ordered it. Hey, I just did myself), it's interesting seeing Meta go after the employee but seemingly not make much of an effort to go after the publisher.

What would they hope to gain going after any of it so late anyway? Surely if their goal is to dissuade others from publishing tell-alls, the resulting publicity from their suits against this one would do the opposite? If they really wanted to stop the book, they should've gone after it early before publication, but it seems like they dropped the ball and are doing more damage to themselves trying to catch up.

Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by tbrownaw on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:03AM (#43388132)
> it's interesting seeing Meta go after the employee but seemingly not make much of an effort to go after the publisher.

Why? As The Fine Article points out, the publisher wasn't party to the agreement they're trying to enforce.

Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by Aurornis on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:16AM (#43388267)
Exactly. The employee entered into an agreement with Meta, then broke the contractual agreement with this book.

This is the purpose of those agreements.

Meta has no such agreement with the publisher.

You can argue about the merits of such agreement separately, but there isn’t any mystery in this situation. Employee entered into an agreement with Meta and then broke the agreement. Meta is pursuing the terms of the agreement.

Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by nolamark on Monday March 17, 2025 @06:11PM (#43393241)
Facebook got a Interim award. The former employee was not present at the emergency arbitration hearing.

https://about.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Arbitration-...

Seems like she, personally, has been spared the need to go out and promote the book, the only thing Facebook seems to have gotten out of the arbitration. In return they provided far more promotion than her appearing on podcasts would have done.

IANAL, and would really like to read some legal commentary of what Facebook thought they were going to achieve. As far as I can tell they have a pretty hollow victory. Even if they were somehow able to stop her from receiving royalties, it seems like Macmillan could pay her sideway with a contract and advance on her next book, her story of Facebook trying to silence her. Once again, IANAL, desperately want to read multi page thoughts from one on the Facebook strategy.

Yes, I bought the book and am enjoying it immensely. It has a nice fun irreverent sense of humor.

Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by blitzar on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:41AM (#43387897)
Publishers have high priced lawyers on retainer (who will copy and paste the same winning brief they have served anytime they have been challenged before) - individuals are resource constrained.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by mannykannot on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:09AM (#43388200)
I suspect the actual issue is that the publisher is not a party to whatever contract there exists between the author and Meta.

Unfortunately for free speech, it is no longer the case (if it ever was) that publishers have strong financial resources compared to an increasing number of those who want to hide things.

Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by delichon on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:58AM (#43388073)
You don't need an expensive lawyer to point out that the publisher is not covered by the arbitration agreement, a cheap one will do.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by epgui on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:11AM (#43388220)
The bullying is not possible because the argument made is weaker, bullying is possible because the argument is made by a party with fewer resources.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by cosmic_cheese on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:57AM (#43388067)
Bingo. Authors are easier to bully into submission.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by epoxy_sauce on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:28AM (#43388379)
They are defending the author in this case though. Im sure they bully authors plenty too, but I'm pretty sure they keep some around for allegations of libel and other complications where they have the authors back.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by voxic11 on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:05AM (#43388157)
Contracts only bind the people who are party to them, so they couldn't go after the publisher on the same grounds. And there is a lot of case law around suing publishers so they probably know they would lose a lawsuit on other grounds (and maybe get an anti-slap ruling against them which could cost a lot of money).

One thing I don't understand though is I thought arbitration could only award monetary relief? I didn't realize that they could issue injunctions like this which I thought constituted an equitable remedy.

Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by zombot on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:45AM (#43387952)
Maybe they want to see the Streisand Effect in action?
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by infecto on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:37AM (#43387863)
In my mind its one of those events that is hard to know the exact motives. Could be as simple as enforcing the standard of their contracts or as extreme as actual retribution.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by datavirtue on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:22AM (#43388328)
Why consume resources? Retribution.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by infecto on Monday March 17, 2025 @12:27PM (#43390195)
That simply fits your desire/narrative. There is no way to know without being an insider.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by datavirtue on Wednesday March 19, 2025 @03:17PM (#43416203)
I'm almost 50 years old. I know how shit works.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by ghaff on Monday March 17, 2025 @08:45AM (#43387950)
Yeah, even if the author wanted to, I doubt they could pull it back at this point.
Re:Meta puts stop on promotion of tell-all book by former em... by ajross on Monday March 17, 2025 @09:24AM (#43388340)
> seemingly not make much of an effort to go after the publisher.

That's a much, much harder case to make. Wynn-Williams can be reasonably held to be bound by the terms of her severance agreement and whatever NDA was part of it. The publisher is allowed to print whatever they want as long as they don't knowingly defame someone.

What might happen in the longer term is Meta suing the author (this case here is just an arbitration ruling) for proceeds from the book sales. NDAs have a hard time constraining speech, but they can absolutely constrain your ability to make money from speech. But again that's going to depend on the specific contract.