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Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Huntsecker on Friday March 14, 2025 @05:46PM (#43367635)
daily stories coming from the US are pretty crazy, FBI being used as a tool to try and revert something from under the previous administration. Feels like whatever balances and checks that should be in place to stop an autocracy are missing
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by kayodelycaon on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:01PM (#43367736)
In theory, congress can remove a president. Start placing your bets! Does he get removed before he dissolves congress? :)

I’m only partial joking. The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by alienthrowaway on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:22PM (#43368370)
> In theory, congress can remove a president

In practice, the president is threatening to remove any Republican member of congress who crosses him by supporting a primary challenger.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by rufus_foreman on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:25PM (#43368391)
>> the president is threatening to remove any Republican member of congress who crosses him by supporting a primary challenger

Democracy is scary stuff to some people.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by actionfromafar on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:31PM (#43368431)
Money is people too, or something?
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by rufus_foreman on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:42PM (#43368502)
Choosing which political candidates one supports is democracy.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by kristopolous on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:04PM (#43368615)
Republicans are the right wing party, Democrats are the conservative. That's why their response is to uphold the status quo and existing power structures while they do ineffective, ceremonial, wonky frittering around the edges.

All their "progressive" policies they adopted after the Fortune 500 and major institutions had changed theirs. They desperately align themselves with the status-quo, regardless of where it is.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by fransje26 on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:05PM (#43368254)
> The check and balances in the country won’t work if half the population wants to replace democracy with theocracy.

It looks like this entire nonsense is heavily going to hurt the wallets of more than half of the population. So why would they be so keen to vote for a theocracy?

Although at this stage I also wouldn't put it past the clowns in power to actively tamper with elections to get the results they want.

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Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by MostlyStable on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:21PM (#43367912)
Congress voluntarily giving up its powers to the executive branch [0] (unfortunately not new, but worsening), isn't exactly Democracy failing, but it's certainly a breakdown of the system of checks and balances upon which our Federal government was conceived, and is most definitely not "how things are supposed to work".

[0] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/house-republicans-block-con...

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Alupis on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:26PM (#43367955)
Your particular article lays out exactly how Congress is approving (ie. balancing) the Executive branch's actions. Which means yes, working as intended. You just happen to disapprove.

Majority of the other things people are freaking out about were done via Executive Order, and therefore can be undone by Executive Order.

Smart people have been warning about that for nearly two decades. Now that some people happen to not like what's being undone, it's suddenly a crisis.

News at 11...

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by MostlyStable on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:36PM (#43368043)
I'm honestly not sure how you can read that article and see it as Congress balancing the executive branch. Blocking future ability to do something is not the same thing as "approving" or "balancing" executive power. The fact that Republicans are claiming that this is a good balance of power doesn't mean it is. This was a vote by congress, to restrict congress's ability to act in the future. That is not the way the system is designed to work.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Alupis on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:39PM (#43368077)
> This was a vote by congress, to restrict congress's ability to act in the future. That is not the way the system is designed to work.

This has been going on for as long as I have been alive. Congress continues to delegate authorities to the executive branch. They literally voted and approved this.

Except now, you aren't happy with the outcome therefore it's suddenly a crisis of epic proportion! It was fine just a year ago, but now, totally unacceptable!

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by MostlyStable on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:42PM (#43368096)
As my very first comment pointed out, no this isn't new. And it's bad every time. It's always been bad, it continues to be bad. This is just one of the more naked and egregious cases. But no, not new.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by cyberax on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:31PM (#43368004)
The money were NOT allocated by an Executive Order. They were properly apportioned through Congress.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Alupis on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:35PM (#43368029)
You can read the article - it literally lays out how Congress has approved these actions.

The story is written with a specific slant on purpose. "House Republicans Block..." then later admits Republicans control the House which means this is working exactly as intended. Again, you just aren't happy with the results.

Vote in the midterms if you're so upset. Otherwise, business as usual.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by MostlyStable on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:39PM (#43368071)
Ok, so this comment makes it seem that you think it is not possible for Congress to undermine the system of checks and balances, since anything congress does, is, by definition, something that Congress has approved, and therefore, it's the system working as intended. That is a truly baffling view.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by intended on Saturday March 15, 2025 @07:06AM (#43371709)
No he is absolutely right, you missed the emotional trick there.

Yes you being unhappy is not reason for democracy to fail.

However, you are unhappy because Democracy IS failing.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by a4aur5uiu on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:24PM (#43367933)
He's literally dissolving, dismantling, and undermining the systems that you're claiming are "working". And federal judges are deciding cases along strict party lines, which is a pretty clear demonstration that they're utterly ignoring the actual written words of the law. And Congress has completely given away their intended control of federal spending. So let's cut the shit. You like Trump and you want this to continue. Don't lie to me and tell me you believe one single word of the mental diarrhea that you just wrote.

It's like we're standing on the street watching a building burn down and you're saying "look the sprinklers are on, this is how it's supposed to happen". No one is stupid enough to say what you're saying and actually believe it. So clearly you're just lying.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by salynchnew on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:44PM (#43368506)
Yeah, I thought it'd be a cold day in hell before I saw the FBI going after Habitat for Humanity and the United Way.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by accrual on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:35PM (#43368033)
I hope it leads to stronger checks and balances.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by not2b on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:43PM (#43368104)
A president can revert an executive order from the previous administration. But the Inflation Reduction Act is a law, not an executive order. If Trump doesn't like it, he can get Congress to repeal it. But he isn't the king. The constitution requires that the president "take care that the laws be faithfully executed". It isn't fraud when funds that were allocated by the act were distributed according to the act. If someone cheated then by all means they can bring charges if they have any evidence, which they apparently do not.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by caycep on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:56PM (#43368578)
the problem is there has to be credible enforcement. Either a credible threat of impeachment, or a separate branch of Us Marshals that works directly for the judiciary or something.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by roamerz on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:00PM (#43368597)
>>The constitution requires that the president "take care that the laws be faithfully executed".

You mean like Biden enforcing our border laws?

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by apical_dendrite on Friday March 14, 2025 @08:28PM (#43368775)
Most of us learn in kindergarten that "but he got to do it" is not a valid excuse for bad behavior.

(This should not be taken as accepting your premise)

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Aloisius on Friday March 14, 2025 @11:27PM (#43369733)
Em. Deportations increased substantially under Biden.

That said, laws generally permit some leeway to the executive to set spending priorities/focus. It can be pretty limited since Congress tends to specify what department and sometimes program money must be spent on, but it still it allows for things like deciding you're going to prosecute more drug dealers even though they're long shot cases rather than easier to win fraud causes. This is done at all levels of government.

Shifting spending priorities as the law allows, though, is rather different from actively breaking the law.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by reseasonable on Saturday March 15, 2025 @06:20PM (#43375520)
Didn’t you hear from Fox News that all CBP officers were instructed to stand back and stand by while illegals waltzed into our country to commit crime?? They literally played solitaire on their phones for 4 years straight. /s

Back the Blue apparently includes demonizing their daily effort to process asylees, rescue families in danger, and arrest gang-affiliated criminals, all while forgetting that crossing the border illegally is a civil offense akin to a speeding ticket. But now that we are a physical threat to their safety, we supposedly have a secure border.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Terr_ on Friday March 14, 2025 @05:55PM (#43367697)
> to try and revert something from under the previous administration

More-importantly, it's nowhere close to "normal" try-to-reverts, where one President tries to replace an equally "soft" policy put in place by another President.

Here the newly-installed crooks are trying to deny a hard "money shall be spent on X" law passed by Congress, which is an unconstitutional attempt to seize the "power of the purse".

Same legal-vibes as if Trump declared people on his Friends List were exempt from taxes.

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by pjc50 on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:14PM (#43367836)
> as if Trump declared people on his Friends List were exempt from taxes

I'll pencil that in for April. After all, the president can direct who is and is not prosecuted..

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by tempodox on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:36PM (#43368034)
I was about to say, “don't give him any ideas”, but it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by jagged-chisel on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:14PM (#43367845)
> … as if …

This hasn’t happened already?

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by Terr_ on Friday March 14, 2025 @09:03PM (#43368990)
Not precisely: Trump fired so many people that the IRS can't check whether the rich are submitting fake paperwork to cheat on their taxes.

Related outcome, but different in mechanics/constitutionality.

[0] https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a-hamstrung-irs-is-a-gift...

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Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by tremon on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:40PM (#43368083)
No he didn't. If he had, you would have posted a credible link.
Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by kristjansson on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:24PM (#43368387)
I hate that I know this, but he probably half remembered this conservative brainworm[1], the reality of which is “recently founded weirdo groups claiming nonprofit status are sketchy, get audited more, and the right has more of them”

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Re:FBI, EPA, and Treasury told Citibank to freeze funds to c... by burkaman on Friday March 14, 2025 @06:39PM (#43368068)
I searched for a while and haven't been able to figure out what you're referring to, can you explain?