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Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules by munificent on Thursday March 13, 2025 @06:01PM (#43357662)
All snakes have scales, so there is a 100% correlation between being a snake and having scales.

That does not imply that fish are snakes. Nor does the presence of scaled fish invalidate the observation that having scales is a defining attribute of snakes (it's just not a sufficient attribute to define snakes).

Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules by TylerE on Thursday March 13, 2025 @07:33PM (#43358298)
That’s not accurate either. Scaleless snakes, thigh a rare mutation, do exist as genetic mutants.

https://www.morphmarket.com/morphpedia/corn-snakes/scaleless...

Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules by oasisaimlessly on Friday March 14, 2025 @04:43AM (#43360678)
> there is a 100% correlation between being a snake and having scales.

That's a strange definition of "correlation" that you're using.

Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules by cousin_it on Friday March 14, 2025 @07:21AM (#43361517)
You wrote some smart stuff back in the day, so this comment is puzzling. If all snakes have scales, that doesn't mean the correlation is 100%.

Imagine there are three equally sized groups of animals: scaly snakes, scaly fish, and scaleless fish. So we have three data points (1,1) (0,1) (0,0) with probability 1/3 each. Some calculations later, the correlation between snake and scaly is 1/2.

Re:OpenAI Asks White House for Relief from State AI Rules by the_optimist on Saturday March 15, 2025 @12:42AM (#43370044)
You’re looking for the logical argument here, not the statistical one. You sampled from snakes and said there is a 100% correlation with being a snake (notwithstanding the counterarg in an adjacent comment about scale-free snakes).

I am noting that the logical argument does not hold in the provided definition. If “some” attributes hold in a definition, you are expanding the definitional set, not reducing it, and thus creating a low-res definition. That is why I said: ‘this is a poor definition.’