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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by delusional on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @06:29PM (#43348351)
> like feminist AI conferences in Africa.

According to their 2023 form 990 (the 2024 one isn't published yet) those sort of donations are usually on the order of 15k. You don't get much browser for that money.

Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by rurp on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @08:31PM (#43349212)
That's hardly an isolated example though, plus who knows how many staff hours went into evaluating various proposals and facilitating the conference. The big question is why. It's not like there are a dearth of social justices non-profits out there. It couldn't be easier to donate directly to such projects. Why can't we have a single non-profit focused entirely on preventing a total browser monopoly?
Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by logifail on Thursday March 13, 2025 @01:59AM (#43350722)
> The big question is why. It's not like there are a dearth of social justices non-profits out there. It couldn't be easier to donate directly to such projects.

Managers like to build empires?

Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by account42 on Thursday March 13, 2025 @06:31AM (#43351912)
15k is a sofware developer salary for over a quarter of a year in many parts of the world. That's actually quite a bit of browser.
Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by myvoiceismypass on Thursday March 13, 2025 @07:37AM (#43352276)
And Mozilla HQ is in SF
Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by delusional on Thursday March 13, 2025 @01:10PM (#43355296)
That line of argument require there to be a line of competent and productive 3rd world developers ready outside the doors of Mozilla HQ. Not just productive developers either, they'd have to be entirely intrinsically motivated and self driven, preferably with projects lined up. They would of course also have to be completely at-will, at risk of being terminated after their quarter year contract. Anything less than that will cost more then the developer salary.

My argument, more directly, is that a developer is not just a salary. You need support staff, office space, capital, and actual work for them to do. You need to hire, manage, and tutor them. Comparing developer salaries to money spent on one-time goodwill activities is ridiculous. Internal billing at enterprise corps usually estimate two times salary for "real cost", but that still assumes you're actually holding that cost against a tangible planned project.