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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by dismalaf on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @11:13AM (#43344133)
There's already an independent Europe based browser...

Vivaldi.

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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by marginalia_nu on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @02:41PM (#43346379)
Vivaldi is just a chromium wrapper as far as I understand.
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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by dismalaf on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @03:33PM (#43346853)
It's Chromium with the Google bits ripped out, Vivaldi has their own sign in/sync functionality, built in ad blocker, and custom UI. It's based on Chromium but has quite a bit different going on, as much as Brave or Edge.
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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by tredre3 on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @06:37PM (#43348432)
But unlike Brave and Edge, Vivaldi isn't open-source.
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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by dismalaf on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @06:43PM (#43348483)
https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

They basically just want to keep the copyright to their UI. You can see the source but they don't want anyone to rip off their UI.

And let's be real, every browser (even Firefox) has closed source server side code.

Also, the comment I initially responded to was about why isn't there a European browser not controlled by "big tech"... Vivaldi is an independent company in Europe making a browser.

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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by TheDong on Thursday March 13, 2025 @05:24AM (#43351581)
> And let's be real, every browser (even Firefox) has closed source server side code.

What is Firefox's? Accounts and Sync are both open source, and I'm struggling to think of anything else

i.e. https://github.com/mozilla/fxa

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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by bladeee on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @02:43PM (#43346395)
But it depends on the Blink engine.
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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by dismalaf on Wednesday March 12, 2025 @03:35PM (#43346868)
So? Blink is a fork of WebKit which was a fork of KDE's web engine. It's all open source anyway. The point isn't that the code must be unique, only that it's not dependent on a large US tech firm. They might benefit from Chromium development but the option to hard fork is always there.
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Re:Tell Mozilla: it's time to ditch Google by Kwpolska on Thursday March 13, 2025 @03:10AM (#43350956)
Blink is a Google project, primarily maintained by Google employees.
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