The university has so many buildings in Hyde Park that they often make the decisions about which businesses are there or not. I've been happy with most of their choices recently; bringing in a Trader Joe, for example. However, some residents have differing opinions.
There was a race riot there in 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_race_riot_of_1919
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>Drill rap, possibly the first genre of music that will end up disappearing because its practitioners have killed each other off.
Anyway where are you even going to put them, where is a place outside of society? If you're thinking of prisons, why do we have this problem in the first place if we already imprison more people than any other country. If this hasn't worked so far what will be different when you do even more of it? Why are other countries able solve this issue in other ways?
A sincere & informed commitment to reducing violence quickly takes you in very different directions from this one. It's other values that have you itching to eliminate people you find undesirable.
AKA "the blacks".
Ironically, you are positing the same concerns as the people you claim are "entitled" but instead of questioning the university's policies you want to give them more power to enforce racial segregation.
I'm pointing out that's what the op is doing through their faith in the historical methods of the universities 'community stabilization' efforts. What the op is proposing is exactly what the university did after the Supreme Court shut down the discriminatory laws on residential neighborhoods.
Just anecdata. I had a family member living there for the six years, several addresses including their condo on Drexel Ave, one block from Cottage Grove (more or less the western boundary of campus proper). Their first child was born there, mom often went on long walks with the stroller to parks, etc with no problems. I visited several times, never had a problem. I walked to The Cove at night for a few beers, Sister Sledge on the jukebox was a conversation starter. Reggie's at the Beach (63rd St.) was a nice place, easy parking.
Every large city has "dangerous" areas, Hyde Park probably has fewer per capita than most.
There’s a lot to say about the crime factor, and it’s complicated. I will say that it’s common to miss it if you don’t happen to witness it. Streets that look quiet, well-developed, and peaceful will suddenly become violent and then go back to normal as if nothing happened.
I also lived on Drexel for a few years. A graduate student was shot and killed nearby while walking home. Another night we witnessed a drive-by shooting while eating dinner. I’ve got a number of crime-related stories after living here that range in severity from “funny-in-retrospect” to “somebody died.”
Something that still strikes me is how crimes can happen right outside homes without anyone noticing. The University Police have a daily email list of “serious” incidents that I check - I’ll often notice a carjacking or home invasion within 500 feet of where I was taking a nap on my couch.
It’s a great neighborhood with a lot going for it, which is maybe part of what makes the crime issue so hidden. It doesn’t look sketchy or violent until it suddenly is.
This conversation is fascinating to me. When I lived there, not one person had any illusion about the fact that we lived in a very violent place. The regularly-heard gunshots on 53rd got rid of those notions very quickly.
Students are regularly held up at gunpoint, sometimes shot and killed.
How on earth can you live in Hyde Park and not know of the violence?
Both conservatives and leftist are pro-community. Their opponents are wealthy migrant laborers who plan to make their money, then leave to go back to the communities they came from. In your city, they're YIMBYs. When they're back in the suburbs and little towns they came from, they'll be HOA warriors.
The army used to train their trauma surgeons in Chicago because of the number of knife and gunshot wounds seen in the city's hospitals. From 2001 to 2021, there were about 1,000 more murders in the city than American soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Yes, because it is no longer "your" community. Most of those residents complaining know they will in short order be priced out. The relatively few residents who own property and can hold onto it aren't the ones complaining.
A community is made up of people, not real estate, and if you get priced out of your neighborhood, it is of no benefit to you. It's a "non-issue" like me kicking you out of your house and fixing it up, and then for some reason you're not happy about how much better the house looks now that you're on the street. A truly YIMBY view of the world.
Will the people who can only afford to live in a "shockingly dangerous" neighborhood, after being priced out, end up in a less dangerous place?
What a non-issue. You have this massive development that's going to benefit your community and you're concerned because the people who actually contributed to it are going to benefit as well? The entitlement is just unreal.
I've lived on one of the streets mentioned in the article and its hard to overstate how shockingly dangerous the area is. Hearing gunshots was a regular occurrence. I knew someone who intervened in a robbery and was shot and nearly killed. I wouldn't allow friends to come visit after dark because I feared for their safety. If anything, the University and its police force should do more to rid the neighborhood of its anti-social element.