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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by oezi on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:37PM (#43311533)
I wish Europe and the US would have just put their foot down and kicked out Russia swiftly and decisively in 2022.

Rather the have adopted the doctrine of "Ukraine can't lose, but Ukraine may not win". Always supplying just enough arms to keep the Ukrainian front from collapsing not to "stir up" Russia.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by verdverm on Sunday March 09, 2025 @03:50PM (#43313017)
or in 2014 when they first invaded
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by davidmurdoch on Sunday March 09, 2025 @02:40PM (#43312246)
Doesn't seem like that would have made anything better though. I thought the general consensus was that direct action would have just escalated things?

I watched a video recently that discussed all the grudges against the West/NATO Russia (Putin) has been holding onto since the mids 90s that makes them feel justified now.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by oezi on Sunday March 09, 2025 @03:13PM (#43312593)
But who cares if Putin escalates. He already is all-in to the tilt. If he had more he would deploy it.

The only thing left would be nuking. He hasn't dared and likely won't.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by davidmurdoch on Sunday March 09, 2025 @03:50PM (#43313013)
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/25/europe/putin-nuclear-warns-we...

He has dared. Empty threats? Maybe... but that's quite the gamble to make.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by oezi on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:39PM (#43314169)
Why is it a gamble for the West?

On the contrary: Should Putin risk everything for some sq km of Ukrainian soil?

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by davidmurdoch on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:41PM (#43314182)
I think he already answered that question long ago.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by jjk166 on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:01AM (#43316897)
By not using nuclear weapons?
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by jjk166 on Monday March 10, 2025 @12:00AM (#43316893)
So what you give in to demands every time he rattles his saber?

History tells us that appeasement is a worse gamble.