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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by ta988 on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:40AM (#43310069)
And for sure dismantling social security and all the safety nets including medicaid will help them feel welcomed again...
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by TheBlight on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:55AM (#43310260)
How is social security being dismantled? What exactly are you talking about? Do you even know?
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by lolinder on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:42AM (#43310088)
As I said, they're wrong about the medicine, but Trump wins by being the first to acknowledge that there's a serious problem.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by bavell on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:01PM (#43310344)
I applaud you for trying, but HN doesn't want reason or understanding w.r.t trump or his voters. Way easier to label everyone/everything as fascist nazis and stick your head in the sand.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by lolinder on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:07PM (#43310420)
Thanks. I know. I'm here every few weeks with a fresh attempt. It went over better before the inauguration, but now that Trump is actually implementing the policies that he campaigned on it's a bit harder for people to stomach the idea that his voters are anything other than orcs.

I'll probably give it a rest here for a few more weeks.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by monkey_monkey on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:37PM (#43310791)
> I'll probably give it a rest here for a few more weeks.

Even though you are the only person on HN who understands the working American, you deserve a rest.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by lolinder on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:44PM (#43310880)
Nah, there are plenty of us here, we've just mostly gone underground in the face of the mindless hate and anger that's been dominant the last month or two. Echo chambers are self-reinforcing that way.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by monkey_monkey on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:38PM (#43311549)
You are a brave soldier - almost a true resistance hero. Chapeau.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by coryrc on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:27PM (#43310662)
He's not the first in the slightest.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by lolinder on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:30PM (#43310689)
In the last 30 years, which other nominee for president by one of the two parties that matter has made addressing the struggles of working class America the center of their platform?
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by coryrc on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:56PM (#43310999)
That's moving the goalposts. There are plenty of candidates for Congress they voted against as well.

But, sure, how about Barack Obama? https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/fact-sheet-creatin... The one who created the hated Obamacare, but they rebelled when their R representatives threatened to cancel the ACA.

No, they're the byproduct of a failed educational system and culture of unearned entitlement. They expect others to save them from drug addiction while doing every possible to prevent help. And they only have this power because of the Senate represents land instead of people.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by deeg on Sunday March 09, 2025 @05:43PM (#43314207)
The CHIPS act was not only an acknowledgement of the problem it was actually doing something about it.