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Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by ExoticPearTree on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:10AM (#43309693)
Do you have any data to back this claim up? The Grippen looks awful.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by holowoodman on Sunday March 09, 2025 @11:45AM (#43310128)
If you look at the raw specs maybe. Grippen has a specific role which is starting and landing anywhere and being easy to support, both in manpower and materials. You can land a Grippen on any short stretch of paved ground, get it rearmed and ready to fly again in half an hour with 5 people. Whereas higher spec american jets like the F16 need very long, clean and straight runways, lots of support infrastructure, lots of personnel and have a long turnaround time. With the likes of F35 and F22 this is even worse.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by fifilura on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:14PM (#43310504)
Also, I believe reading raw plane specs these days is more like counting CPU GHz. It does not really matter anymore.

What matters these days is the cost of buying/flying/maintenance, software platform and what missiles they can launch.

Gripen has modular upgradable software, and supports modern europe made missiles such as Taurus and Meteor.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by fsloth on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:11PM (#43310460)
As other poster said, Gripen is perfect for a defensive role as a missile launch platform. It's not supposed to go 1:1 with F-35:s, but to counter the Russian air capability - and mostly in a defensive role. F-35:s were really great when they came with larger techno-military-political ecosystem but now the trust in that ecosystem is shattered.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by mikrotikker on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:22PM (#43310593)
The grippen looks amazing what are you talking about? Are we looking at the same plane? The high off boresight capability and meteor are top of class.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by ExoticPearTree on Sunday March 09, 2025 @02:55PM (#43312394)
It is single engine and it is an ugly looking plane. The F22 looks like a spaceship compared to it in terms of looks and capabilities.

For the same reason I consider the F35 a failure.

Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by rad_gruchalski on Sunday March 09, 2025 @04:10PM (#43313213)
Who cares if it’s ugly. Your priorities are mind boggling. You doubling down on that argument is comical.
Re:US Ends Support For Ukrainian F-16s by ExoticPearTree on Sunday March 09, 2025 @06:36PM (#43314634)
This is the internet. You get entertained for free.