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Re:Discworld Rules by actionfromafar on Sunday March 09, 2025 @07:47AM (#43308234)
"Throw the Russians out of Ukraine" would suffice. No need to wipe anything out. (Except what logistically is needed to achieve said goal.)

Good vs evil is simplistic, but it serves as shorthand for "it's worth fighting for".

Re:Discworld Rules by wolvesechoes on Sunday March 09, 2025 @08:35AM (#43308569)
"Good vs evil is simplistic, but it serves as shorthand for "it's worth fighting for"."

Are you in Donbas currently? If not, you are not fighting anything.

Re:Discworld Rules by diggan on Sunday March 09, 2025 @09:23AM (#43308887)
> Are you in Donbas currently? If not, you are not fighting anything.

That's a very simplistic world-view. One does not have to be on the frontlines to help an effort. People donating to https://ukrainedefensefund.org/ are still "fighting", even though they aren't literally gunning people down in Donbas.

Re:Discworld Rules by wolvesechoes on Sunday March 09, 2025 @12:26PM (#43310657)
No, it is not simplistic. People donating are, well, donating. It is a right thing, a noble thing, it is a necessary thing.

But they are not fighting. They do not take the same risk, they do not suffer the same, they do no share burden with those that do.

Re:Discworld Rules by PhasmaFelis on Sunday March 09, 2025 @01:08PM (#43311140)
No one said they were.
Re:Discworld Rules by Aeolun on Monday March 10, 2025 @07:24AM (#43319280)
How do you want this worded? It’s worth giving the Ukrainians a fuckton of equipment, and potentially organized military intervention for? You can summarize that as ‘fighting’.

The problem is that as a European, giving in here means they come closer. Next time it’s the Polish border, then the German.