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Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by rasz on Thursday March 06, 2025 @04:48PM (#43285392)
> DS1 (Digital Signal 1) out one end and a rack full of Zyxel modems on the other side

Why use real physical modems when you already have subscribers signals converted to convenient digital form in DS1 bundle? Wouldnt it make more sense to put a box with one fat DSP doing 24 modems all in bulk inside a box with DS1 and Ethernet sockets at the ISP location instead?

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by icedchai on Thursday March 06, 2025 @06:11PM (#43285981)
This did happen eventually. In the late 90's, various companies (Cisco, Ascend) provided boxes that could handle 24 modems on a single T1 port (PRI or channelized T1.) This massively improved ISP port density. Before that, it was racks and racks of modems...
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by actionfromafar on Friday March 07, 2025 @03:57AM (#43288442)
IIRC it was the only way to support 56k.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by icedchai on Friday March 07, 2025 @11:48AM (#43291715)
Yes! The ISP side needed to be digital to get a 56K connection.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by timthorn on Friday March 07, 2025 @04:19AM (#43288544)
I was working for one of the telco equipment firms around that time. We made a box that would terminate TDM trunks and had it in the lab.

I was installing Windows 2000 on a PC in the lab (manual disk swapping required) when, hidden behind another rack, several shelves full of physical modems all started calling the box at once, speakers on.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by wffurr on Friday March 07, 2025 @07:02AM (#43289477)
I am trying to imagine the racket that must have made. Amazing how vivid that modem sound is in memory.
Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by linsomniac on Friday March 07, 2025 @08:28AM (#43289973)
You're thinking about the Livingston/Lucent Portmaster 3. https://osmocom.org/projects/retronetworking/wiki/Livingston...

These were great boxes, and the only way you could get 56K was to call into an ISP with one of these or similar on their end -- the trickery that allowed 56K relied on one end being fully digital.

I was working for an ISP around that time and we had a bunch of Portmaster 2s connected via RS-232 cables to piles of modems, some rackmount some just stacks and stacks of US Robotics Sportsters. Sometimes modems would get wedged and we'd have to reboot them or "busy out" the line that they were on. Harder for the modems that were an hour away.

When the transition happened we were able to get rid of all those wires and just plug in one small phone cable for the T1, another for Ethernet, and terminate 23 lines. The Portmaster would treat all the modems as a pool and route calls to whichever was available, and once a call was done would run some testing on the modem before putting it back into the pool. It was like a space age rocket ship! At one point I was driving around with $50K worth of Portmasters in the trunk of my car, hoping I didn't get rear-ended. They were not at all cheap, but they were worth it.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by kstrauser on Friday March 07, 2025 @09:33AM (#43290476)
Oh man. I was talking to my wife’s acquaintance and he was excited to talk shop when he found out I was technical. He worked at “this small company you’ve never heard of, Livingston.” “As in, Portmaster?” “You know about that?!”

Yeah, friend. I’m very familiar, and it was amazing tech. It sure kept the data center cooling system busy, though.

Re:Why 56k Modems Relied on Digital Phone Lines You Didn't K... by iramiller on Friday March 07, 2025 @09:05AM (#43290235)
Similar story with Portmaster 2s and a wall of modems layed out. The resulting blinking lights acted like a load monitor of sorts as the activity would spread across the wall as customers dialed in after work and signed off at night. Not mention a wall of flashing red lights made a pretty good picture of ‘the internet’ for those just starting out on this adventure in 1997.