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Re:Buy European Made. Support European Values by fsflover on Thursday March 06, 2025 @07:40AM (#43279553)
Signal forces you to use Apple or Google phones (which enable spying on users via, e.g., push notifications [0]), actively fights with third party clients and servers, goes against decentralization. They want to be the single point of failure or attack. They also use the AWS. This is all too suspicious for me.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38543155

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39445976, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39414322, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32248062

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Re:Buy European Made. Support European Values by anonym29 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @10:54AM (#43281625)
Not if you're using Molly-FOSS, which strips all Google integrations down to a shared library level. UnifiedPush instead of Firebase. OSM for location sharing instead of GMaps. There are de-googled AOSP-based mobile OS's such as GrapheneOS that can be used with Molly-FOSS as well.

It's not necessarily the perfect end goal, but for those who are at an earlier phase of their privacy journey, GrapheneOS + Molly-FOSS is a massive improvement over stock Android + stock Signal, while maintaining a relatively minimal disruption to their ordinary workflows with e2ee messaging on an android-based smartphone.

https://molly.im/

https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android

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