Re:OpenAI Plots Charging $20k a Month for PhD-Level Agents
by acchow on Thursday March 06, 2025 @01:59AM
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We're in the early days, like back when Uber offered $2.50 rides anywhere in San Francisco. They burned through tons of cash for years but had $9.8bn net income last year.
Re:OpenAI Plots Charging $20k a Month for PhD-Level Agents
by namaria on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:40AM
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Would uber then drop you off in a random address sometimes?
Or, maybe worse, would someone be able to make your uber drop you off at their place by sending the driver an sms before you even started the ride?
Re:OpenAI Plots Charging $20k a Month for PhD-Level Agents
by fairestvalue on Thursday March 06, 2025 @06:22AM
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Uber and Lyft are literally the textbook examples of (local) network effects.
OpenAI is not.
Re:OpenAI Plots Charging $20k a Month for PhD-Level Agents
by rs186 on Thursday March 06, 2025 @07:00AM
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At least I trust Uber enough that I use it anywhere I don't get to drive my own car. And I have never been in an accident so far.
I don't trust ChatGPT enough to copy its output and be done with my work. Sometimes I spend more time prompting + revising the response than writing it myself from scratch. It's like Uber is so bad that it is faster to walk than getting matched to a driver who very slowly drives to the destination. And yet you get into a car crash during your trip. I doubt Uber would still be in business today.
Re:OpenAI Plots Charging $20k a Month for PhD-Level Agents
by juped on Thursday March 06, 2025 @02:24AM
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I don't care too much about revenues and expenses exactly, but about the sustainability of their capital structure. "Big tranches of convertible debt within a couple years of converting" does sound like a bad sign.
Re:OpenAI Plots Charging $20k a Month for PhD-Level Agents
by InkCanon on Friday March 07, 2025 @03:21AM
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It seems that way but I think it's quite possible in tech for things to rapidly change. E.g. if OpenAI starts quantising all their models, which can maybe reduce their compute costs by 80%, it would be profitable, but make some number of customers leave. Certain other headwinds like decreasing cost of cost per teraflop helps them.
Like Uber I suspect their business model is simply to capex until all their enemies are dead, then jack up prices.
https://www.wheresyoured.at/oai-business/