Re:'Shadow fleets' and sabotage: are Europe's undersea cable...
by Sharlin on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @10:55AM
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Hah, yes, there are definitely not 100 to 200 breakages in the Baltic Sea alone :D
Re:'Shadow fleets' and sabotage: are Europe's undersea cable...
by tucnak on Wednesday March 05, 2025 @08:37AM
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> My personal opinion so far is that this whole thing is teetering between media frenzy and actual issue.
Welcome to hybrid warfare! This is the point.
Re:'Shadow fleets' and sabotage: are Europe's undersea cable...
by clown_strike on Saturday March 08, 2025 @11:31AM
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> One also has to ask if it's productive to cut these cables when 1) it disrupts nothing on a grand scale, and 2) if it were to disrupt anything it also means they cannot perform other attacks.
Part of a balanced DoS.
The article is about cables but Russia has also been jamming satellite beams and shelling ground stations since the start of the Ukraine conflict, and they (IIRC) even developed a missile with a nuclear payload to take out satellites kinetically.
My personal opinion so far is that this whole thing is teetering between media frenzy and actual issue.
Edit: Have to correct myself. Googling now it seems all traces of this statement have been scrubbed, and instead I find that the International Cable Protection Committe (ICPC) claim about 200 cable issues a year WORLD WIDE.
So maybe the Finnish security police had misspoken and have now retracted this statement from all media.
Either way, I have worked with internet since 2004 and I remember as early as 2004 dealing with companies in Sweden who had boats and other equipment just to install and maintain cables across the baltic and atlantic. It's something that requires non-stop maintenance, regardless of the security situation in the world.
One also has to ask if it's productive to cut these cables when 1) it disrupts nothing on a grand scale, and 2) if it were to disrupt anything it also means they cannot perform other attacks.