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Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by generic92034 on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @11:41AM (#43257015)
Countering pushed narratives with facts and arguments is a complete failure. It does not reach the emotional core, which is "us versus them".
Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by xg15 on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @11:41AM (#43257028)
OK, but how then?
Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by jopsen on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @01:10PM (#43258080)
Wasn't that what we the west did during the cold war?

Is it not just that media is more fragmented and we've underfunded the fact providing media since?

Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by Aeolun on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @07:10PM (#43261115)
Maybe it's more that the media companies have been bought up by oligarchs that think the narrative that's being pushed is just fine and dandy?
Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by JoshuaDavid on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @01:35PM (#43258379)
Twitter community notes are popular and pretty effective at calling out misleading information that has gone viral (organically or inorganically). I think writing off facts and arguments is premature.
Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by blargey on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @03:10PM (#43259347)
Is that sort of stuff actually effective against propaganda though?

I'd assume that by the time a disclaimer is written up, submitted, and accepted according to whatever the criteria is, the original un-disclaimered message has been received and digested by its target audience.

Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by ryandrake on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @03:42PM (#43259608)
Plus, the propaganda also strongly paints fact checking as a mere ploy by other_team to try to cheat and win. So even if the community notes get to them, they will chalk it up to "liberals trying to hide the real truth."
Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by JoshuaDavid on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @05:16PM (#43260390)
There are a few things working in favor of community notes there

1. Viral tweets have a longer-than-average time window between the time they start to go viral and the time the median viewer sees them, so a community note can get there before the median viewer. 2. Users who interacted with a tweet before it got a community note will get a notification when the community note is added. 3. Community note writers can leave a note on a piece of media. If a tweet with a video gets a community note, and that note is about the video rather than about the tweet, that note will show on all other tweets that show that video.

Source: this excellent interview with the Community Notes team (https://asteriskmag.com/issues/08/the-making-of-community-no...), in the section that starts with "Asterisk: Another thing I wanted to talk about is speed". Really that whole interview is great, highlights how deliberate and thoughtful the Community Notes team was regarding everything about the feature. Which is, I think, why community notes have succeeded where a lot of previous fact-checking attempts have failed.

Re:U.S. Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine by Viliam1234 on Tuesday March 04, 2025 @07:55PM (#43261389)