Re:GrapheneOS Adds Custom Private Network Location Feature
by infogulch on Friday March 07, 2025 @09:21AM
(#43290382)
Apparently they've been scraping Apple's network location database and plan to offer a substitute service running on GrapheneOS servers, as well as a way to upload data you collect on your device.
I worked on this a while back in parallel. You can dump Apple's entire database in ~2 weeks. Around 3 billion records including China.
You can compress it down to only a few gigs and have everything offline. I also got a ichnaea proxy though not as well tested. Been using it myself and it's alright,
Re:GrapheneOS Adds Custom Private Network Location Feature
by gruez on Friday March 07, 2025 @10:02AM
(#43290720)
From the OP:
>If you want location detection without satellite reception, you can enable this service Settings > Location > Location services > Network location with a choice between Apple's service and our proxy to it. [...]
Re:GrapheneOS Adds Custom Private Network Location Feature
by plsbenice34 on Saturday March 08, 2025 @01:34AM
(#43298019)
Not all are, of course. Hopefully it's a minority. However, in my experience it is a factor that many less-technical people are ungrateful and rude even if I spend hours giving them free tech support. I suppose because they expect niche privacy tech to 'just work' more easily. After experiencing that hundreds of times it can become difficult to not become jaded.
Re:GrapheneOS Adds Custom Private Network Location Feature
by rasmus-kirk on Friday March 07, 2025 @03:20PM
(#43294110)
I did look. There is:
- Location Services
- Secure User Plane Location
- Predicted Satellite Data Service
It's not immediately obvious what I need to enable in order to get better location services, if it's already enabled, and whether the feature in the linked post even helps with the issue. Why are you so hostile?
I use Graphene for privacy without a massive hassle, I don't care enough about my phone ecperience to be really into it, I just want provacy. And generally GrapheneOS has been GREAT for this.
I worked on this a while back in parallel. You can dump Apple's entire database in ~2 weeks. Around 3 billion records including China.
You can compress it down to only a few gigs and have everything offline. I also got a ichnaea proxy though not as well tested. Been using it myself and it's alright,
How would I enable it?
>If you want location detection without satellite reception, you can enable this service Settings > Location > Location services > Network location with a choice between Apple's service and our proxy to it. [...]
Builder number: 2025030300 (in Settings > About phone)
Seriously. How did you even install GrapheneOS without a little bit of self-determination?
I provided directions for reviewing the settings, which this person could have simply looked up by visiting the link in the title.
Rude and condescending? That's subjective, but maybe yes it might have been rude and condescending. Oh well.
It's not immediately obvious what I need to enable in order to get better location services, if it's already enabled, and whether the feature in the linked post even helps with the issue. Why are you so hostile?
I use Graphene for privacy without a massive hassle, I don't care enough about my phone ecperience to be really into it, I just want provacy. And generally GrapheneOS has been GREAT for this.