Thanks for not posting the link to the “boxing model”. It gets posted every time, as if web/css invented boxing and padding and spacing and borders, and everyone else was a clueless noob. Which clearly shows inability to even comprehend both the problem and how deep css guys are into the bizarre ways of thinking about layouts that css suggests through its paradoxical under- and at the same time over-engineering. Where everything is a combination of crutches that can’t stand straight on their own.

And yes, C is a pile of crap too. I programmed in it for 15 years.