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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by inetknght on Friday February 28, 2025 @06:43PM (#43213401)
> Do we really think it's fair that a lady who happened to be selling her house at exactly the time the war started... should have that money donated to Ukraine's war effort?

You know what's not fair? The lady's government invaded a sovereign nation, committed genocide while doing it, and continues to do so. If that lady lost her fortune from it, then she should be vocal about justice for all parties.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by slt2021 on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:02PM (#43213672)
if we start holding all Americans liable for what American government did to other countries, it would be really bad for you
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by inetknght on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:05PM (#43213711)
Yes, it would. Maybe doing so would cause American government to change their actions. Or maybe not.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by masfuerte on Friday February 28, 2025 @07:59PM (#43214267)
America is a functioning democracy so individual Americans are much more responsible than individual Russians for the bullshit their respective countries do.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by slt2021 on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:23PM (#43214466)
America is not a democracy in a strict sense, its a republic. To be precise, modern America is a plutocracy, not democracy.

But did America ever pay reparations for centuries of enslaving its own people? Where is the accountability?

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by KPGv2 on Saturday March 01, 2025 @12:14AM (#43216202)
> America is not a democracy in a strict sense, its a republic

Most republics are democracies. You seem to think "democracy" is equivalent to "direct democracy," but a direct democracy is only one type of democracy. A republic is another form of democracy.

America is certainly a democracy (for now; who knows what will happen in two years)

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by dredmorbius on Saturday March 01, 2025 @12:13AM (#43216198)
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Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by philistine on Friday February 28, 2025 @08:36PM (#43214565)
How deluded do you need to be to detach yourself from all the responsibility in your life that are complicated? If you are an American, the US government is YOUR government and it is YOUR problem. You might not be able to do much, but it does not shield you from your moral responsibility.

Russians are responsible for their government too! They just have way less they're able to do to steer it, but it still their government.

Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by john01dav on Friday February 28, 2025 @10:31PM (#43215508)
Your argument seems to violate ought implies can, which as far as I know is generally accepted as a valid moral principle.
Re:Zelensky leaves White House after angry meeting by int_19h on Saturday March 01, 2025 @11:36AM (#43220969)
She didn't choose that government, nor does she have any power to affect it, so how can she be responsible for it?